Logging King Air SIC
#11
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5 hours dual is perfectly reasonable.
However...regional interviewers will often focus in on the most sophisticated aircraft in your logbook. Conventional wisdom is that you'll need to know procedures and systems well, and they may try to assign you to an interviewer with King Air experience. You may want to weigh the benefit of those 5 hours against the need to learn all the systems.
However...regional interviewers will often focus in on the most sophisticated aircraft in your logbook. Conventional wisdom is that you'll need to know procedures and systems well, and they may try to assign you to an interviewer with King Air experience. You may want to weigh the benefit of those 5 hours against the need to learn all the systems.
#12
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This is not accurate. Remember, it is 5 hours of DUAL. The interviewers will assume that a low time pilot had the chance to fly a king air with an instructor. The questions will be more like "I see you have 5 hours of dual in a king-air. What did you do in the airplane and tell us what you learned from this experience." You will NOT be asked to describe the the type of engines, fuel system, etc in detail.
If you're logging time in anything, you need to have the knowledge of the aircraft to back it up.
#13
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You were SIC, not DUAL. There is a huge difference between the two. Acting as a crew-member and receiving instruction are entirely different.
#14
To build on what Rick said, you can log whatever you want in your logbook. Its your logbook and not an FAA or airline logbook. Now, that being said what the FAA will accept as flight experience is outlined in 61.51, and SIC qualifications are outlined in 61.55. Consequently, the airlines or any other FAA certified operator will want to see 61.51 time.
SIC time in a single pilot King Air operated under Part 91 will just get you a pat on the back. Personally, I would subtract that time from your overall totals when you turn in the paperwork for airlines, 8710s etc. The only other thing that "SIC" time might be good for is insurance.
SIC time in a single pilot King Air operated under Part 91 will just get you a pat on the back. Personally, I would subtract that time from your overall totals when you turn in the paperwork for airlines, 8710s etc. The only other thing that "SIC" time might be good for is insurance.
#15
Getting some knowledge of systems is always a good thing too. Friend of mine flew a Beech Premier (RA-390) in a Part 91 op. I was able to go along right seat on a few trips and fly some legs. He is an MEI and signed it off each time with a statement of some sort about the flight(s). Took it upon myself to spend a few hours learning the systems, not only to satisfy my own curiosity, but also that way I would know the major points of the plane if asked in an interview.
#16
Just to be clear, you also passed a 135 SIC checkride in the King Air right? If so, and it is in your Ops Specs and other things that Rickair said logging it is totally legit.
#17
This is not accurate. Remember, it is 5 hours of DUAL. The interviewers will assume that a low time pilot had the chance to fly a king air with an instructor. The questions will be more like "I see you have 5 hours of dual in a king-air. What did you do in the airplane and tell us what you learned from this experience." You will NOT be asked to describe the the type of engines, fuel system, etc in detail. Can you imagine a regional airline going out of their way to find a King Air pilot to then drill someone on the electrical system of a king-air with only 5 hours of dual?? That's absurd!
It's true that they would not expect someone who a few hours of dual to be an expert...but if you cross the line and log PIC or even SIC in 135, better know the plane.
#18
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Yep, my business records are mine too. I can enter whatever I want. Until the IRS audit, of course.
Your diary is 100% yours. Your logbook is an official record of time used to meet the requirements for certificate, ratings, operating privileges and currency.
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