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Old 08-17-2018 | 06:12 AM
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Stevie Wonder just blamed Aretha Franklin’s death because of climate deniers on CBS. The CBS talking heads nodded along.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 06:29 AM
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Stevie Wonder just blamed Aretha Franklin’s death because of climate deniers on CBS. The CBS talking heads nodded along.
And that in combination with Al Gore's Gulfstream just destroyed all the peer-reviewed science. No need to worry now.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 06:35 AM
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All the standard nonsense to distract from what has become blatantly obvious even for the flat-earthers who helped Big Oil/Coal waste decades when we could have been sensibly dealing with the issue. Man-made global climate change is real and the repercussions of doing nothing about it far outweigh the costs. Al Gore was right. The flat-earthers were wrong, as usual.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
And that in combination with Al Gore's Gulfstream just destroyed all the peer-reviewed science. No need to worry now.
It certainly is proof that the media has an agenda.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
It certainly is proof that the media has an agenda.
No it isn't. Global climate change is a systemic problem that requires a systemic solution. We are not going to turn back the clock on modern technology like jet aircraft especially for folks like leaders of state, captains of industry or such, but that doesn't mean that we don't look for better energy solutions and ever greater efficiency. Such attack lines are nothing but straw men, but I am sure Big Oil appreciates you parroting their ridiculous talking points.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
Man-made global climate change is real and the repercussions of doing nothing about it far outweigh the costs.
Making statements of opinion over and over as if they’re facts doesn’t make them so.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 12:07 PM
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If a “Captain of Industry” wants to lecture ordinary people on sacrificing for clean air, he needs to reduce his own energy footprint to that of a “Private First Class of Industry”, or else hush. One rich hypocrite does more harm to the environmentalist cause than a dozen oil barons.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
If a “Captain of Industry” wants to lecture ordinary people on sacrificing for clean air, he needs to reduce his own energy footprint to that of a “Private First Class of Industry”, or else hush. One rich hypocrite does more harm to the environmentalist cause than a dozen oil barons.
Indeed.

Or: 160-some world leaders converged on France a few years ago. The Grand Poohbah among them took between 4-6 widebody aircraft for his part (primary VC-25; backup/Decoy; and typically 2-3 C-5 or C-17 for the Limo and helos).

You’d have thought he could have at least carpooled with Mexico and Canada. “Yeah, you guys fly to DC, then we’ll take my ride.”

Nope. I’d venture to say NONE of them took commercial transport, and of those who flew, they went in the most prestigous ride their respective countries could muster.
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Old 08-17-2018 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
If a “Captain of Industry” wants to lecture ordinary people on sacrificing for clean air, he needs to reduce his own energy footprint to that of a “Private First Class of Industry”, or else hush. One rich hypocrite does more harm to the environmentalist cause than a dozen oil barons.
The cap&trade plan is a zero sum game, and since the rich can afford to buy all the offsets, the poor will bear all the burden, as usual. The best part, is it would have done absolutely zero to stem any carbon emissions as well, just as banning abortion or guns won't result in any less of those things.
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Old 08-18-2018 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
A quick Google reveals he’s not a climate scientist. He’s a geologist. He makes a good living with his denialist blog, too.

So, what are the motives of the (vast majority) of climate scientists who are warning us about climate change? What’s in it for them?
Being a non climate scientist was never an issue when you guys were building your “consensus” that CO2 is very very bad and will lead to Florida submerging by 2015.
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