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Yoda2 06-17-2016 08:33 AM

While I'm an eternal optimist, at the rate we are going we will more likely destroy ourselves/civilization before most of this comes to pass.

RhinoBallAuto 06-17-2016 04:57 PM

ask yourself...
 
Would you rather be a passenger in aircraft "flown" by: a) a remote pilot; b) the black box designed by a pimply programmer who spent his 20s avoiding the sun in Mom's basement; or c) the soft pink fleshy human who's life is equally dependent upon his piloting skills as every other soul on board?

I think the market will resist unmanned passenger carriage long after technology makes it either feasible or affordable.

Passengers will implicitly trust a pilot who has skin in the game, far more than some nameless, faceless operator who never leaves the ground -- and they will probably pay more for the peace of mind.

My $0.02

Flyguy4723 06-25-2016 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto (Post 2146914)
Would you rather be a passenger in aircraft "flown" by: a) a remote pilot; b) the black box designed by a pimply programmer who spent his 20s avoiding the sun in Mom's basement; or c) the soft pink fleshy human who's life is equally dependent upon his piloting skills as every other soul on board?

I think the market will resist unmanned passenger carriage long after technology makes it either feasible or affordable.

Passengers will implicitly trust a pilot who has skin in the game, far more than some nameless, faceless operator who never leaves the ground -- and they will probably pay more for the peace of mind.

My $0.02

Could not agree more

Flyguy4723 03-26-2017 07:35 PM

What do you think of this?

Pilotless Planes - Plane & Pilot Magazine

Bucknut 03-26-2017 07:55 PM

Re: Automation
 
UAL 232 is a good argument for always having at least one pilot on board. There was no procedure for the malfunction on board and a computer can only use logic for known problems and does not have human intuition.

JohnBurke 03-26-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyguy4723 (Post 2142716)
It's probably going to happen eventually, but how much time do you guys think we have until computers take over our jobs or at least do all of the work. This is one thing that really scares me about becoming a pilot.

Then don't become one. Your fears are justified.

McDonalds is hiring. How long until they become fully automated?

C130driver 03-26-2017 09:55 PM

Good lord this nonsense again? No current or aspiring pilot has to worry about this for another century. There is not one single arguement that holds water for the benefits of pilotless planes v. cost/risk.

Flyguy4723 03-27-2017 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by C130driver (Post 2330019)
Good lord this nonsense again? No current or aspiring pilot has to worry about this for another century. There is not one single arguement that holds water for the benefits of pilotless planes v. cost/risk.

Pilotless planes are already here. How long before they cut the copilot out of 121 ops, I mean pilots don't do that much anymore as it is. And having pilotless has a lot of benefits... not that I like it, but there are benefits.

4V14T0R 03-27-2017 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyguy4723 (Post 2330099)
Pilotless planes are already here. How long before they cut the copilot out of 121 ops, I mean pilots don't do that much anymore as it is. And having pilotless has a lot of benefits... not that I like it, but there are benefits.



Yeah they don't do all that much right up until they do. There are two pilots for a reason. It isn't for when you're sitting in cruise with the autopilot on kicking back sipping coffee.

rickair7777 03-27-2017 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 2146060)
In two years Tesla Motors has promised to have a fully autonomous self driving car on the market. Other car manufactures are in hot pursuit.

The Northrop Grumman X-47B is a plane that has the autonomous capacity to land on a carrier among other things. The navy plans to build a small fleet of carriers to support UAV's with autonomous abilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_X-47B

No they don't. Navy is building new full-size carriers to support manned combat operations. Their design life is about 50 years.

Navy is looking at the next fighter after the F-35. It will be manned. There's talk of optionally manned, but the capability will end up being to limited to justify the cost.

The UCAS, which was assumed to be a strike/ISR system has been demoted to a carrier-based tanker. So they're confidant it can take off land on the boat (no cross-wind, no flare) and fly in large circles.


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