Multiple Checkride Busts - Do i have a chance
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Multiple Checkride Busts - Do i have a chance
Hey guys
I started flying at age 14. Got my private license at 18 and went to a diploma mill in Florida for the rest of my ratings.
While there, i failed 3 check rides. I left there being very dissatisfied with my instructors and the examiners at the school. (1 bust was multi-private and 2 was instrument multi)
I was 18 years old and inexperienced in life. I didn't put in the effort to prepare for them and when you add that to inexperienced and frankly bad instructors it was a recipe for failure (the first time i saw an ILS Back Course was during my check ride under the hood... and my examiner failed my #1 Nav - Was a fun checkride) I know not to place blame on anyone else and to show i have improved and learned, but for conversation sake i wanted to be clear about why my record is so bad.
I came home and finished out my training here. While home i failed another ride. Again 18 years old and this one was entirely my fault.
That was 10 years ago. When Congress passed the new 1500 hour law i had a few airline interviews but hiring was slow and a 4 bust 500 hour pilot wasnt the top of anyone's list.
Since then i have completed my B.S. In aviation technology and have worked as a VP of Business Development in an insurance firm.
Lately i have had the itch to change my career to my initial dream of the airlines.
My question is... Now that they cant seem to find enough pilots - If i were to show up with 1500 TT, 300 ME, a B.S. in Aviation Tech would i still be disqualified from most places due to 4 part 61 busts when i was young and dumb?
I am 28 now... Still young and slightly less dumb
Sorry for the long post, any help is appreciated.
I started flying at age 14. Got my private license at 18 and went to a diploma mill in Florida for the rest of my ratings.
While there, i failed 3 check rides. I left there being very dissatisfied with my instructors and the examiners at the school. (1 bust was multi-private and 2 was instrument multi)
I was 18 years old and inexperienced in life. I didn't put in the effort to prepare for them and when you add that to inexperienced and frankly bad instructors it was a recipe for failure (the first time i saw an ILS Back Course was during my check ride under the hood... and my examiner failed my #1 Nav - Was a fun checkride) I know not to place blame on anyone else and to show i have improved and learned, but for conversation sake i wanted to be clear about why my record is so bad.
I came home and finished out my training here. While home i failed another ride. Again 18 years old and this one was entirely my fault.
That was 10 years ago. When Congress passed the new 1500 hour law i had a few airline interviews but hiring was slow and a 4 bust 500 hour pilot wasnt the top of anyone's list.
Since then i have completed my B.S. In aviation technology and have worked as a VP of Business Development in an insurance firm.
Lately i have had the itch to change my career to my initial dream of the airlines.
My question is... Now that they cant seem to find enough pilots - If i were to show up with 1500 TT, 300 ME, a B.S. in Aviation Tech would i still be disqualified from most places due to 4 part 61 busts when i was young and dumb?
I am 28 now... Still young and slightly less dumb
Sorry for the long post, any help is appreciated.
Last edited by awsims33; 02-19-2017 at 12:34 AM.
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I dinged a few check rides way early on in my training. Busted my Initial CFI and Instrument rating (wrong way on an NDB appch). But I now have 7 type ratings with zero training busts in the last 20 years. Your primary training won't say much about your ability. It's the consistent "professional" busts (135 rides/recurrents/sims/) that will raise flags. Not flubbing a primary ride.
*edit*...Oh and do NOT blame your CFI's in ANY airline interview. Even though they may have sucked...yada yada...the airlines want to see YOU take responsibility and how you improved, etc.
*edit*...Oh and do NOT blame your CFI's in ANY airline interview. Even though they may have sucked...yada yada...the airlines want to see YOU take responsibility and how you improved, etc.
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