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Old 03-22-2017, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
It's very well established, actually.
If it's so established, applicants would have no excuse why they didn't get hired, or why people are paying hundreds for interview preps. Interview gouge only tell you so much, they don't tell us what HR or the people sitting at the interview panel want to hear, or what kind of answer they want.
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kevbo View Post
The people in charge of hiring at US majors have a culture and demographic that they want to protect. A degree and an ATP by 23 says that you came from the right neighborhood. They do not want the lower classes working their way up into jobs reserved for upper middle class frat boys. Different life experience and political views could possible rock the boat and no one wants that.
What? That is literally the dumbest thing I have read all week and I have read some pretty idiotic things this week. Do you have some extra time now that the Bernie fanclub meetings have died down to think these things up? Any halfwit with a pulse could get a 4 year degree and show me a new-hire that is 23 with an ATP? Your argument goes completely out the window.

You can argue that you don't need a degree to operate a plane but the fact that people are whining about a basic requirement for a professional job that involves one being responsible for lives; and how this is part of some patriarchal discrimatory conspiracy is ridiculous.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex View Post
There's still people who attend job fairs, interview prep, multiple recommendation, who still gets turned down. So why is that? we'll never know because in the TBNT email they don't tell us why we didn't get hired and what they wanted. They just say "We have other applicants blah blah blah"
The employer is free to choose among applicants, obviously.

Your statement that no one knows what airlines are looking for in an applicant is false and uninformed.

It's your responsibility as an applicant to know what an employer is looking for before you apply. If you apply in ignorance without knowing, it speaks to you as a person and volumes about your level of maturity and professionalism, but does nothing to suggest that no one knows what airlines are looking for in an applicant.

If you do the research to learn what your target airline wants in an applicant, ensure you meet that requirement, and appky, it does not mean that you will get the job. It's entirely possible that other applicants are more qualified than you.

No, the employer is not obligated to detail to you the qualifications of others who applied and were hired.

Numerous companies and consultants exist which will provide whatever you need to know about a target employer, from requirements to questions asked in the interview to details of the sim check to the demographics oother applicants and new hires. It's all out there. If you're not aware or havent made the effort to get it, this is on you; dont suggest that no one knows what airlines want, because that is absolutely untrue.

Originally Posted by Silver02ex View Post
If it's so established, applicants would have no excuse why they didn't get hired, or why people are paying hundreds for interview preps. Interview gouge only tell you so much, they don't tell us what HR or the people sitting at the interview panel want to hear, or what kind of answer they want.
It's an excuse that you want?

Try this one: the guy that got hired was more qualified than you.

It's extremely well established, what airlines want in an applicant. Learning this and checking the boxes obligates no one to employ you. Simply because you have what an airline wants does not make you a new hire so long as the next applicant is more attractive to that airline.

Think.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:14 PM
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SilverO2ex,

Have you actually done any interviewing of candidates with the task of making hiring decisions? It's eye-opening and I've done probably a hundred interviews for pilot, reserves and civil jobs.

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Old 03-23-2017, 01:34 PM
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