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ParkingatMIA 03-31-2017 03:41 PM

Getting hired with an associates degree?
 
As a civilian pilot flying for Envoy now, what are the chances of being hired with only an associate degree. I was planning on sending in my app as soon as I get 1000 121 time, it would take a full year to complete the bachelors degree if I take on full course load for 3 semesters, but it seems like it would be a waste of time/money to go through with it if I don't need it.

PotatoChip 03-31-2017 03:55 PM

Awful.

(Filler)

PerfInit 03-31-2017 04:51 PM

At this point in your career it would be an awful waste of money. Stay at Envoy and do the Flow to AA. Take that college money and invest it for your retirement. That's what I'd do, but just my opinion.

JohnBurke 03-31-2017 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA (Post 2333776)
...but it seems like it would be a waste of time/money to go through with it if I don't need it.

Waste of time to seek a higher education?

Waste of time to obtain a degree?

You're probably right. Don't bother. See how it works out for you.

Student01 03-31-2017 05:31 PM

I'm thinking of getting an Associates in Aviation Maintenance. That's two years and I plan to go to a flight school.
I hope things are different by then...

C130driver 03-31-2017 05:48 PM

Just get the degree man. Your chances of being hired go up exponentially. Also consider the worst that many of us don't consider. What happens if you lose your medical? A degree opens up many doors for you. Many aviation related degrees too so you can do it in something you are interested in. Consider it an investment...we can b**** about the degree requirement all day on APF but that doesn't change the fact that it will be a requirement for the foreseeable future.

JohnBurke 03-31-2017 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Student01 (Post 2333869)
I'm thinking of getting an Associates in Aviation Maintenance. That's two years and I plan to go to a flight school.
I hope things are different by then...

Things? Different?

Bozo the pilot 03-31-2017 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by C130driver (Post 2333877)
Just get the degree man. Your chances of being hired go up exponentially. Also consider the worst that many of us don't consider. What happens if you lose your medical? A degree opens up many doors for you. Many aviation related degrees too so you can do it in something you are interested in. Consider it an investment...we can b**** about the degree requirement all day on APF but that doesn't change the fact that it will be a requirement for the foreseeable future.

^^^ listen to this man ^^^
Im at an LCC and am just finishing up my B.S. so that if our TA is delayed or crap, I have a parachute ready. A degree is never a waste of time or money. Wish I knew that in my 20s when I "knew" everything. Good luck

rickair7777 03-31-2017 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Student01 (Post 2333869)
I'm thinking of getting an Associates in Aviation Maintenance. That's two years and I plan to go to a flight school.
I hope things are different by then...

Unless you really want to work as a bush or ag pilot for your whole career, you should decide whether to be a mechanic, or a pilot. If you have the aptitude, pilot is probably going to pay a lot more.

An AA, A&P, or both will not help your pilot career much or at all. Spend the time and money on what you need: Four year degree and flight training.

There is a niche in aviation, mainly bush and ag, where pilots who can fix airplanes in remote locations are at a premium. That's where the pilot + A&P is needed.

Student01 03-31-2017 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2333967)
Unless you really want to work as a bush or ag pilot for your whole career, you should decide whether to be a mechanic, or a pilot. If you have the aptitude, pilot is probably going to pay a lot more.

An AA, A&P, or both will not help your pilot career much or at all. Spend the time and money on what you need: Four year degree and flight training.

There is a niche in aviation, mainly bush and ag, where pilots who can fix airplanes in remote locations are at a premium. That's where the pilot + A&P is needed.

I agree.
However my plan is: Get the Associates in Aviation Maintenance. Go to ATP Academy and start with a regional and work my way up.
IF something were to happen to me (can't pass a medical etc etc) I can be employed as a mechanic or GSC.
What are your thoughts to that?
In two years...who knows...United may not take me (I work as a contractor for them as a CSR). I may have to flow from Envoy to AA.


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