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Old 05-24-2017, 06:46 AM
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I've reached a crossroads in this career, one that many of us have reached at some point. I'm 36, and have been here at my regional of choice for 10 years, about 9K hrs. I've had my apps out to the majors for 3 years, and haven't heard a peep, I'm guessing due to a couple 121 check failures, and my unwillingness to attend "pay to play" job fairs. I'm happy to see a few majors have begun their own in-house job expos, and I hope that trend continues.

I've watched as captains I used to fly with, my colleagues and friends, and now FOs and former students got on at the majors, and I'm starting to wonder what's wrong with me. Be that as it may, I'm driving to work, living comfortably in the midwest, and have 15-16 days off a month. Republic has been a fairly stable place to work, even with the restructuring, and now our diversified ownership by the 3 legacies, Embraer, and others seems pretty stable to me, at least in the near term. I'm seriously debating giving up the major airline dream, and just staying here.

This is not a "woe is me" post. I know plenty are in the same boat, wondering if that call will ever come. I'm just curious...for those who have ended up staying at the regionals long term...any advice?
You might as well give up because it seems like you're putting almost zero effort into actually getting hired. What have you done besides put your apps in? Do you update them weekly? You won't go to a job fair, yet you obviously know how important they can be. I understand that it sucks to pay for them, but good grief, you know it's important and it's for a very lucrative career. Have you done any volunteering? Have you had your apps reviewed? Have you tried to work in the training department, or chair a committee in the union? Are you even a member of the committee? Have you done anything that would make an airline think you're not just another pilot in the tens of thousands out there?

Nah. Give up. Be a lifer.
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Old 05-24-2017, 07:57 AM
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You are too young to have this mentality (I know because I tried it at 40ish after a furlough post-9/11; that ultimately proved untenable and I was fortunate to get another shot after declining recall and later realizing my job was not great and getting worse). Welcome to the reality and frustration that is the game of trying for a legacy carrier. You are plenty qualified, assuming your busts are explainable as learning events and not repetitive and egregious. BUT, you need to do everything you can, including paying for resume help, interview prep and yes, job fairs. The legacy gigs offer you an exponentially better career at your age.

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Looking back at 65 and thinking "what could have been" is the cruelest of self-inflicted tortures. I left a fairly well-paying ACMI to go to a legacy and have absolutely zero regrets (especially since they went out of business a few years after I left.)
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If you put in 20 years at a legacy, you'll likely get somewhere around a $700k in your 401k with just the company contribution alone. Add your own contribution easily at $1.2m or more.
Its worth some effort.
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It's a numbers game. I am in the same boat as you, but three years older and I am not giving up. I'm doing what I can to get to AA,DL,UA,SW,FEDEX,UPS.

However if it doesn't happen, I'll enjoy my 17 days off every month, $120K+ and on track for 3.2M 401K.


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The average age is still 37-38 for major.
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Think it's pretty much unanimous. While there are some advantages to staying here, there are many more to moving on, and I know that. My friends who have already moved on tell me it's like night and day.

About a year ago when most of them were hired I was updating my apps regularly, got several internal recs at each carrier, I went to a university job fair, a few interview prep session (Emerald Coast and Aero Crew Solutions), and I've applied to become a check airman...nothing back from any of that, unfortunately. I've let it slide a bit...my logbook and interview suit are just gathering dust now. Thanks for the pep talk...I've got to get my butt in gear and keep trying. Hopefully, someday, my number will be up.
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Think it's pretty much unanimous. While there are some advantages to staying here, there are many more to moving on, and I know that. My friends who have already moved on tell me it's like night and day.

About a year ago when most of them were hired I was updating my apps regularly, got several internal recs at each carrier, I went to a university job fair, a few interview prep session (Emerald Coast and Aero Crew Solutions), and I've applied to become a check airman...nothing back from any of that, unfortunately. I've let it slide a bit...my logbook and interview suit are just gathering dust now. Thanks for the pep talk...I've got to get my butt in gear and keep trying. Hopefully, someday, my number will be up.
You're young man. I don't understand what you're discouraged about. Guys in their 40's 50's and as evidenced by this thread; 60's are getting the call.


Get involved and make yourself known. Complacency kills people and careers.
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Think it's pretty much unanimous. While there are some advantages to staying here, there are many more to moving on, and I know that. My friends who have already moved on tell me it's like night and day.

About a year ago when most of them were hired I was updating my apps regularly, got several internal recs at each carrier, I went to a university job fair, a few interview prep session (Emerald Coast and Aero Crew Solutions), and I've applied to become a check airman...nothing back from any of that, unfortunately. I've let it slide a bit...my logbook and interview suit are just gathering dust now. Thanks for the pep talk...I've got to get my butt in gear and keep trying. Hopefully, someday, my number will be up.
Numbers are on your side with the increasing retirements each year! Make a goal to do something each month. Network with a new person, volunteer when you see an opportunity, update your apps and get a professional review. Sign up for a job fair, do whatever it takes to get the job done. Use your seniority to get time off for these events. Hopefully next year the big three will do in house stuff so keep your eyes peeled to sign up for those events.
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Regional lifer? Ew gross
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