Logging approaches for 121
06-17-2017, 09:51 AM
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Logging approaches for 121
transferring to electronic logbook before it's too late...
I'm at a 121 regional:what do you log for approaches?
Normally it's VFR, sometimes we get some IFR initially and I have done 2 cat-2 approaches..
Do you log an approach for every leg you fly, even if its visual?? I'm only a few hundred hours in but I can't possibly remember approaches from months ago.. and I know captains who are 8000 hours behind and they surely can't either!
Also, what do you put for actual instrument on applications since no one pays attention to how much time you're in actual?!?
I'm at a 121 regional:what do you log for approaches?
Normally it's VFR, sometimes we get some IFR initially and I have done 2 cat-2 approaches..
Do you log an approach for every leg you fly, even if its visual?? I'm only a few hundred hours in but I can't possibly remember approaches from months ago.. and I know captains who are 8000 hours behind and they surely can't either!
Also, what do you put for actual instrument on applications since no one pays attention to how much time you're in actual?!?
06-17-2017, 09:58 AM
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When in doubt I'd go conservative - 1000' and 3 or worse. Simple to check, at the 1000' call can you see the runway?
If an airline gives specific guidance follow that.
Commuters I'd sometimes get 4-5 per day. Now 4-5 per month is a really bad month. Sometimes it doesn't average one per month on a yearly basis.
If an airline gives specific guidance follow that.
Commuters I'd sometimes get 4-5 per day. Now 4-5 per month is a really bad month. Sometimes it doesn't average one per month on a yearly basis.
06-17-2017, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
Also, what do you put for actual instrument on applications since no one pays attention to how much time you're in actual?!?
If you do some research I think the FAA had a clarification ruling in the late 1990's(?) that stated even PM/PNF can log instrument time on two man aircraft. If you can find the letter you can follow the FAA's guidance unless the airline asks for a different breakdown.
06-17-2017, 12:10 PM
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06-21-2017, 06:32 AM
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Yes both required crew can log conditions of flight (night, IMC).
The above pdf is good reference, it's from 2015, and seems to say you can log the approach as long as the IMC/VMC transition came after the FAF. That's good because there was an older interpretation that seemed to indicate you had to fly to DA in actual IMC, which is obviously a rare occurence.
The above pdf is good reference, it's from 2015, and seems to say you can log the approach as long as the IMC/VMC transition came after the FAF. That's good because there was an older interpretation that seemed to indicate you had to fly to DA in actual IMC, which is obviously a rare occurence.
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