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Old 02-22-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dontknow View Post
Because I live in the most economically depressed area of the country where even doctors barely make $100k. I have all of the above, that's not the issue. I am responsible for over $45 million in assets at the company I work for now. The median income in my area is $22k a year. Hopefully that helps paint the picture.
Kind of what I suspected, But sometimes folks try running away from the real world to aviation, and it usually doesn't work out too well.

If you want/need to keep living there, and commuting is feasible, airline pay would work out great for you... eventually you'd be the King in a town like that.
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So this career is a second career for me.. my last year in my other career i made about twice what the radiologist is making without stocks and bonus and ownership of the company that we sold on top of that.. the company was a large manufacturing business of 500 employees, valued at 1 billion and I was an executive at 31 years old.

I gave it all up.. I hated my job.. I hated the people.. I hated the 7 days 24 hours 365.. I hated being on the phone with China at midnight.. Germany at 4am.. my plant briefings at 8 am... I slept in my office about 5 nights a week.. had a 5000 square foot house abs I probably only spent 30 nights in my bed between being here, China and Germany... I had an extremely expensive scotch habit...

Ive been in the airlines 3 years now... I love it.. I made 120k last year as a captain.. started a side gig 3 years ago and supplemented my airline salary by 50k and work on my time in the hotels when i get around to it.

Next year ill flow to mainline.. no one calls me... no one makes me work when i don't want too.. airline pilot is the best and easiest job I've ever had. I'd rather eat nails than go back to An office job.

I basically feel like this career is my retirement now and I'm enjoying every minute of it.
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I just left a job on Wall Street where I made more than a radiologist or dentist to start ground school for my PPL. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.

Would you mind sending me a PM? I just wanted to hear your opinion on things given our similar background and age.

I appreciate all the feedback from the pilots on this forum but honestly life isn't all about money. While everyone has complaints about their jobs, the QOL as a pilot is probably better than in private industry at mid to senior executive levels. The grass is always greener I know but given my life experience and where I am personally I would rather take a huge pay cut and actually enjoy my life versus spending all my money on expensive one or two week vacations and whiskey / scotch to make up for the rest of the year.

One odd ball question, if a pilot were to volunteer to fly for Doctors without Borders or some other NGO / non-profit on their off time does this count towards their monthly / annual limits? Do airlines allow this? i.e. if there was a natural disaster and I wanted to take a month off work to help fly in supplies into a disaster area could I request that month off and it not be detrimental to me professionally or with promotions?
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Old 05-13-2018, 10:32 AM
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Please feel free to slap as much reality into my head as possible.
You're an idiot.
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Old 05-13-2018, 02:51 PM
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The grass is always greener I know but given my life experience and where I am personally I would rather take a huge pay cut and actually enjoy my life versus spending all my money on expensive one or two week vacations and whiskey / scotch to make up for the rest of the year.
Do your homework as to which airline(s) you work for. Some have better QOL than others. 12 days off/month sounds like a lot but it's actually not when you're gone the other 18-19 and have to try to cram your entire life and all of your various obligations into your days "off". 15+ days off seems to be about the point where it feels like a good deal.

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One odd ball question, if a pilot were to volunteer to fly for Doctors without Borders or some other NGO / non-profit on their off time does this count towards their monthly / annual limits? Do airlines allow this?
It's legal, there can be no compensation. Problem with that is that in some cases the FAA considers the flight time itself to be the compensation. But I would think that volunteering for what is a clearly a non-profit humanitarian operation, after you're already employed by an airline would not be a problem.

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i.e. if there was a natural disaster and I wanted to take a month off work to help fly in supplies into a disaster area could I request that month off and it not be detrimental to me professionally or with promotions?
Airlines sometimes grant leaves of absence, especially if they are overstaffed at that point in time. It would not be detrimental to career progression, except that depending on the airline and circumstances your seniority might freeze while you're gone. That would delay upgrade if you're not already a CA.
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Thanks Rick

Airlines I have been doing a lot of research but it's so dynamic I think by the time I get closer to 1500 hours it'll all change ha!!!
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I just left a job on Wall Street where I made more than a radiologist or dentist to start ground school for my PPL. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.

Would you mind sending me a PM? I just wanted to hear your opinion on things given our similar background and age.

I appreciate all the feedback from the pilots on this forum but honestly life isn't all about money. While everyone has complaints about their jobs, the QOL as a pilot is probably better than in private industry at mid to senior executive levels. The grass is always greener I know but given my life experience and where I am personally I would rather take a huge pay cut and actually enjoy my life versus spending all my money on expensive one or two week vacations and whiskey / scotch to make up for the rest of the year.

One odd ball question, if a pilot were to volunteer to fly for Doctors without Borders or some other NGO / non-profit on their off time does this count towards their monthly / annual limits? Do airlines allow this? i.e. if there was a natural disaster and I wanted to take a month off work to help fly in supplies into a disaster area could I request that month off and it not be detrimental to me professionally or with promotions?
Wow...it was really great to read all this. After doing some reading on this forum I am going to guess that all the Nay Sayers are career guys that have not known anything else, which would make sense. But please correct me if I am wrong. It's safe to say I have not done as well as some of the other career changers on here and it would be hard for me to leave 300-400k a year while in my 30s, but as cliche as it sounds, if you do something you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life.
Glad to see you guys going for it. Good luck!
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I have 30+ years in this career and currently fly as a B787 CA.

Over the years I have seen dozens of doctor, dentists, lawyers, accountants, vets and successful entrepreneurs become airline pilots.

If that's what 'floats your boat', do it!

Some dive right in and give up the first career, others find a way to do both and others have flown for a few years and then drifted back into their original careers. All of them were happier for having tried it!
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Originally Posted by FullFlaps View Post
MK Ultra

I just left a job on Wall Street where I made more than a radiologist or dentist to start ground school for my PPL. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.

Would you mind sending me a PM? I just wanted to hear your opinion on things given our similar background and age.

I appreciate all the feedback from the pilots on this forum but honestly life isn't all about money. While everyone has complaints about their jobs, the QOL as a pilot is probably better than in private industry at mid to senior executive levels. The grass is always greener I know but given my life experience and where I am personally I would rather take a huge pay cut and actually enjoy my life versus spending all my money on expensive one or two week vacations and whiskey / scotch to make up for the rest of the year.

One odd ball question, if a pilot were to volunteer to fly for Doctors without Borders or some other NGO / non-profit on their off time does this count towards their monthly / annual limits? Do airlines allow this? i.e. if there was a natural disaster and I wanted to take a month off work to help fly in supplies into a disaster area could I request that month off and it not be detrimental to me professionally or with promotions?
Why would you leave your wall street job without even a PPL? You don't even have your private yet, it's a long way to 1500 hours from here.

Edit: I see you are unmarried, have no kids and saved a crap ton of money working on the street. As long as you are okay with the multi-million dollar opportunity cost of your decision, and the very real risk that over time your passion for aviation will decrease, then go for it.

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Old 05-23-2018, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bamike View Post
Why would you leave your wall street job without even a PPL?.
Some jobs suck so much it’s better to walk away from the $$ in order to do something you enjoy. If you haven’t held a genuinely miserable job working with or for genuinely miserable people you wouldn’t understand.
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Imagine there is a family function, say your sisters wedding or say your kids first communion. It is on the 6th. Your schedule comes out and you are working on the 6th because well, at the very least you will be working half the month which means for half the month you will NOT BE HOME. You are in some ratty hotel by the airport on the 6th while your wife/girlfriend facetimes you at the event. How do you feel now?

Missing Christmas, holidays, special events all have a price. Are you crazy to try and become an airline pilot? Yes! It isnt that much fun. Flying is fun but flying for the airlines is not that much fun. Flying out of a grass strip is fun, flying at uncontrolled airport is fun. Dealing with gate agents, TSA, ramp delays, ground controllers at NYC airports, etc is not fun
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