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Old 01-05-2018, 07:29 AM
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Will a 4 year old Class C misdemeanor public intoxication charge effect hiring by a regional and then later a major? Will it effect anything else in the process?
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Old 01-05-2018, 08:07 AM
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It will factor into things for sure. The majors are of course extremely picky and they have tons of applications on file so they can pretty much throw a hundred qualified applications into the shredder and not even blink. I'm not an HR person by any means but to be blunt and honest, it is a negative and it will have impacts. BUT....

I think you would be ok if you worked successfully for a regional and kept yourself squeaky clean. I don't need the details but I think the wording of the police report could be relevant (i.e. drank a beer on sidewalk vs. found face down on sidewalk with no pants and ten beers). If you ever talk to anyone about it, my advice is to not make excuses but instead explain it as a lesson learned.

Are you already flying or are you just thinking about getting started? Have you consulted a lawyer to see if there is any way a judge would downgrade it to a civil infraction of some kind?
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It will not matter for most regionals, but it might be an issue for AA regionals with flow (since it's essentially a guaranteed mainline job).


For majors, you'll probably be all right IF....

- You were relatively young when it happened, ie < 25 yo.

- You were not employed at an airline when it happened. Ideally you were not employed as a pilot at all.

- You can put ten years between the event and when you expect to be competitive for majors.

- You build a clean track record at the regionals (training, discipline, etc).

One time they can write off as youthful exuberance. Any more than that, and it starts to look like a pattern. If it comes up at an interview, it would be helpful to say (truthfully) that you don't drink any more.

Also have you applied for an FAA 1C medical since the event? Anything alcohol related will raise questions.
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Will a 4 year old Class C misdemeanor public intoxication charge effect hiring by a regional and then later a major? Will it effect anything else in the process?
If it didn’t end in conviction then no, on the regional level. If a conviction then you may need 5 years for some to be willing to hire you.

Your best bet is to call the recruiters at the company you’re interested in. With that on your record it is worth considering an AA Wholly a Owned regional to use the flow as a fallback in case you can’t get hired at another major.
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Old 01-06-2018, 07:11 AM
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If it didn’t end in conviction then no, on the regional level. If a conviction then you may need 5 years for some to be willing to hire you.
If you're talking about Canada, that applies only to felonies. This is a problem for DUI's because, while they are often misdemeanors in the US, they are always a felony in Canada, so ANY DUI from the US counts as a felony for Canadian entry purposes.

Public intox probably does not.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
If you're talking about Canada, that applies only to felonies. This is a problem for DUI's because, while they are often misdemeanors in the US, they are always a felony in Canada, so ANY DUI from the US counts as a felony for Canadian entry purposes.

Public intox probably does not.
Agreed. Some companies may lump alcohol related incidents all under one umbrella.

OP didn’t state whether or not it was a conviction, which would make it a different ball game than just a charge.

I have a buddy with a 2 year old dismissed DUI charge at Skywest and a buddy with a 2 year old dismissed public intox charge at Piedmont. Anyone I know with alcohol related conviction had it over 5 years before working at an airline.
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No, it's not going to matter.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:21 AM
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I do not currently fly but am looking to change careers from being a firefighter/paramedic and starting atp in 18 no months which will put 2 years between the conviction and starting school. Never been in trouble before or after.
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Anyone have any input on a twelve year old driver's license suspension and its effect?
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:48 AM
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Anyone have any input on a twelve year old driver's license suspension and its effect?
Is there a question on the app about DL suspension? If not, they probably won't know, other than seeing the moving violations which they will ask about.

If you were relatively young, the suspension was for accumulated points for generic moving violations, and you have a clean driving record since, it should not be a big deal. I would not disclose it unless they ask specifically.

If the suspension was for DUI or some kind of reckless driving, then you'll have some tap dancing to do.
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