Hang em High

This..........

But for now if your sick of flight instructing, go to Grand Canyon Airlines and fly their Caravan and Twotters for a couple years. Learn from their captains then get on with a Corporate 135 outfit for at least a few years after that. You can have a stellar career in the Corporate World if you want it. Fly nice equipment all over the world. You can also find some pretty shady places to work as well along the way. Its still not a bad place to be and you will feel fulfilled at the end. If you decide to apply along the way for a regional and get hired Awesome, but I do not think you will climb much higher than that with that many bust. I could be wrong, If its your dream go for it, but I am thinking you have a much better shot at Corporate 135 in the next couple years. Part 91 doesn't do Pria's so you could get away with not telling them about your bust.

We all have problems of some sort, they never seem to arrive at the times when our lives are the easiest. What separates most is how they handle those moments. Part of being a good pilot is being able to have a bad day with everything going wrong and then be able to block it out and deal with the flight at hand. Learn to not take your homelife to the cockpit. If its really got you down then stop, do not go fly. If you do not feel you can pass a checkride 100% in the future then do not take it, ever again. I do not care how much pressure you are getting. Get some more time and Slay that ***** when you are 100% sure your going to pass.

When I was in flight school my Dad was undergoing Stage 4 cancer. My ex wife had an appendectomy. About 3 months after her surgery she became pregnant by the electrician that came to fix a light while i was gone. You see **** happens to us all. Dont let **** happening outside affect your flying inside. Whatever you do never use excuses for why you failed a checkride. If asked tell them why you failed the checkride, I busted an altitude, I forgot to lift my wheels on climbout, I didnt know how to operate a Garmin. Whatever the reason for the failure is what they wanna know. Not what was happening in your life, my .02 cents.

Good Luck, you will do well

mikeinflight

Interesting thread. How many checkride busts are common or won’t hinder your hiring ability?


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Sliceback

You’ve set yourself at the bottom of a very steep cliff.

IMO you need to show that you’re competent. Just being competent as a CFI isn’t going to cut it. You need to be taking MORE check rides, type ratings, CFII, CFIMEI, gilder, seaplane, etc as you can to show you can hack it and you really had extenuating circumstances. And passing current training isn’t good enough.

Start seeking additional check ride opportunities, ratings and licenses, and in perhaps 5-10 yrs, with a significantly improved track record, you might have additional opportunities

If you start collecting more busts perhaps this isn’t the field for you.

SonicFlyer

The unfortunate part of this is that ATP forces students to take their checkrides even if they are not ready. That was also probably a huge factor here.

rickair7777

1-2 max, depending on the airline. After that, it starts to rapidly narrow your options... for life.

If you want to work at DAL, don't fail any.

It also matters what kind of checkride, they'll have more tolerance for GA training checkrides, since part 91 training and checking is very inconsistent, you were new to avitaion, probably young, and that was a long time ago. You might get a little slack for your very first turbine 135/121 training event since you're new to that as well. After that, they expect you to know what you're getting into.

This is why it's important to do your research on schools and bottom-feeder airlines... some of them fail a lot of people.

Kimchiflyrice

Wow, I didn’t expect so many replies!

Thank you, all. It took me becoming an instructor to really know what it meant to be PIC. Personal issues aside, confidence and PIC mentality was a huge factor. I let the school “bully” me into checkrides not knowing that I actually had a choice. They gave me ultimatums, but now I know better.

I’m not giving excuses, I do own my failures. But had I known that I could have done all of this a different way, I would have. The biggest thing that has come from all of this is showing my students that they don’t have to go through that. That they have a choice.

I’m working on acquiring personal mentors. And will be sending my resume and application to every place imaginable. Possibly even create a cover letter that addresses these issues head on.

It sucks, but I don’t really think it’s over. Especially after what a few of you have said. Those positive words of encouragement make a bigger difference than you might think. So thank you.

Globemaster2827

This. 10 years from now if you've got multiple types and a ton of PIC with no additional busts they'll view this as something that happened early in your career and you out grew. If it continues then you don't have a shot. Add as much to your resume as possible without additional issues.

galaxy flyer

Do they really? What is their overall bust rate? If it’s high, the FAA will investigate the training and checking. The instructor recommending a student for a check is supposed to be signing off that the examiner is ready. If they’re forcing checks, that should be investigated. Either training or checking isn’t up to snuff. UPT busts often came back to the sign off IP. Lots os wash-out leave by never being sent up for the check.

GF

SonicFlyer

ATP will kick you out of school and keep your money if you tell them you are not ready for a checkride in many instances.

galaxy flyer

What is the bust rate?

GF