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Should I QUIT my JOB??!!!

Old 03-15-2018, 08:13 PM
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I would LOVE some advice. Im a low time guy (700 hours) and had an amazing opportunity to go and be a first officer on a jet for a 135 company. Great pay and amazing people to work for. It's a small family owned company. They helped me relocate, paid for the type rating, and even paid off my sign on bonus of 5k at my old company. I was working my butt off flight instructing 6 days a week and getting hours quickly before this. It sounds great so far however, I had to move across the country to a small town with absolutely nothing to do. I was living on the west coast in sunny southern california and was able to partake in a huge range of outdoor activities which is honestly what makes me the most happy in life. Here it is cold and flat with nothing I like to do and believe me i've looked im normally super optimistic. I don't know anyone here I'm a young 22 year old guy and left behind everything for a job. I was so indulged in the fact I could go fly a jet that I ignored the reality. I only work about 12 days a month now and am bored out of my mind. I do love the actual job it's amazing and I'm having a bunch of fun with it but my life when i'm not at work now is pretty hard for me. I've only been here for 2 months and Im getting to the point where I just can't take it anymore. I've went to every flight school within 2 hours of me and applied looking for part time work it's just hard because of my schedule i'm always on call so it kind of turns them off. So no luck. The other thing is im hardly getting any time here. 40 hours a month would be a good month and apparently this is our busiest time of year. I have 700 hours and want to be an airline pilot so I need to get to 1500 hours. At 40 a month it's going to take a long time. I feel like i'm just wasting time here. I would just feel very bad if I quit right away because of how nice they have been to me and I know I should be so grateful for this opportunity and there are others with my time would kill for this job im just not happy and really 90% of it has to do with where I now live. I can't just leave because the plane I'm on requires 2 pilots and I'm one of the 2 we have so if I leave the plane can't fly till they send someone through training. Additionally, I have a training contract that I would have to pay back. Hopefully the new company would be able to help me out with that. I guess I'm just kind of stuck for now. I'm definitely going to quit I just don't know how long I should wait and how much notice I should give them. I want to do everything to make this not look as bad on my record that I can. I also would need to find a new job first which now that I have the type will be easier and once I get to 1000 hours a lot more doors open. I really don't know what to do any advice would be highly appreciated. Thanks. I hope I'm not complaining to much I just had such an amazing life and was so happy back on the west coast quality of life is what it is all about.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:32 PM
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Is the new job for IFL Group, Ameristar, USA Jet, or Kalitta Charters by any chance?
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:44 PM
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Is the new job for IFL Group, Ameristar, USA Jet, or Kalitta Charters by any chance?
No its a very small company, Id prefer not to say the name until I figure out what i'm going to do.
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:06 PM
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No offense, but did you not know that the job being offered was in a small town where there is nothing to do? My guess would be you did. So, on some level of professionalism, you do owe your employer something - especially if they have been kind to you. Exactly what that is really comes down to you and what you consider to be professional and acceptable behavior.
You are going through what most of us low time pilots have gone through at the beginning of our careers - accepting the job that is less than perfect in order to boost your career and open more doors. So do that. Stay as long as you within yourself feel is acceptable to repay the favor while keeping your career goals a priority. Once you get a better job offer, kindly notify them, thank them for an opportunity and give them time to find replacement. Then leave and continue your career elsewhere. Good luck
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Old 03-16-2018, 02:19 AM
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Ok I stopped reading after 10 lines.
Stop crying.
You have absolutely ZERO to complain about. You quit a job that requires the paying back of a bonus ( bad move) and you got onto a Lear.
Many would give their right nut to be in your position.
Man up, put your big boy pants on and sit it out till you at least have your ATP.
These people took a risk to give you an opportunity.
Thousands of pilots suffered through the after effects of 9-11 and 2008.
Be grateful for what you have and don’t F it up.
Alternatively pay back the $5k and give up your seat to somebody who really wants it.
But your resume is gonna suck if it reads Quit Quit Quit
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BigfootCapo View Post
No offense, but did you not know that the job being offered was in a small town where there is nothing to do? My guess would be you did. So, on some level of professionalism, you do owe your employer something - especially if they have been kind to you. Exactly what that is really comes down to you and what you consider to be professional and acceptable behavior.
You are going through what most of us low time pilots have gone through at the beginning of our careers - accepting the job that is less than perfect in order to boost your career and open more doors. So do that. Stay as long as you within yourself feel is acceptable to repay the favor while keeping your career goals a priority. Once you get a better job offer, kindly notify them, thank them for an opportunity and give them time to find replacement. Then leave and continue your career elsewhere. Good luck
Yeah I kind of did but like I said I was blinded by the opportunity of getting into a jet. I went against my gut feeling.. I started to realize it when I was in training. When the time comes I'll definitely be completely professional and stay until they have a guy finished through training. I'm just financially stuck as well as ethically until I find a way to pay back the money. Thanks for the advice.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
Ok I stopped reading after 10 lines.
Stop crying.
You have absolutely ZERO to complain about. You quit a job that requires the paying back of a bonus ( bad move) and you got onto a Lear.
Many would give their right nut to be in your position.
Man up, put your big boy pants on and sit it out till you at least have your ATP.
These people took a risk to give you an opportunity.
Thousands of pilots suffered through the after effects of 9-11 and 2008.
Be grateful for what you have and don’t F it up.
Alternatively pay back the $5k and give up your seat to somebody who really wants it.
But your resume is gonna suck if it reads Quit Quit Quit
I get and I am incredibly grateful for the opportunity and I do not want to burn this company at all that was never my intention. I just feel like this is hurting my career goals to be honest. I could be flying 100 hours a month instructing but now its 30-40 and if the airlines is all seniority why wait to get in when they'll take anyone with the hours. Quality of time doesn't even matter anymore. It would take me about 2 years to get my ATP here and probably about 6 more months if I hadn't quit instructing. I made the wrong move. I'm sorry that I come off whining. Honestly, I'm just angry with myself more then anything for not thinking it through. The life outside of work means more than anything else to me.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by austin27 View Post
I get and I am incredibly grateful for the opportunity and I do not want to burn this company at all that was never my intention. I just feel like this is hurting my career goals to be honest. I could be flying 100 hours a month instructing but now its 30-40 and if the airlines is all seniority why wait to get in when they'll take anyone with the hours. Quality of time doesn't even matter anymore. It would take me about 2 years to get my ATP here and probably about 6 more months if I hadn't quit instructing. I made the wrong move. I'm sorry that I come off whining. Honestly, I'm just angry with myself more then anything for not thinking it through. The life outside of work means more than anything else to me.
I am going to give you some different advice as someone who actually works in the business world. Most companies would not hesitate to fire an employee, or as they call it, "redundancy". I have seen many employees let go with the minimum required notice, some who have been working there for 20 years, with no reason other than "reorganization".

My advice to you is to read your contract and follow it. Yes, it does look bad on your resume to leave a job with less than one year tenure. However, if you want to quit, as long as you pay back the training debt you owe them, feel free to quit. This is business, nothing personal. They wrote the contract with the provisions in there about paying back training costs specifically because they expect this situation. Nothing ethically wrong with that.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:28 AM
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40 hours per month of crewed, jet time, is plenty. The quality of that time is better than flight instructor time, even if it comes half as fast.

Give it a year (I assume that’s how long your training contract is) and quit then if you still want to. Two months is much too soon to make a decision like this.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:52 AM
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Dude you're a 700 hour pilot flying a jet and a getting a type rating. Enjoy the flying and hopefully a bit of travel, get a hobby or a tinder account or something and relax for a couple of years until you get your ATP and move on. The grass isn't always greener.
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