what do airlines see in your PRIA
03-29-2018, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cf105
I was told that airlines only go back 5 years in PRIA but what do they see really, licenses, violations, incidents, check ride failures?
Find out for yourself!
03-29-2018, 03:08 PM
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drug/alcohol positive tests if exist
"pilot records" broad term, if company doesnt keep much on file, they dont turn over much on file
I believe PRIA can only compel another 121/135 to turn over records aka RJ dude going to majors
if you are flying a King Air 90 for local bank under Part 91 they do not have to turn anything over
(I believe)
"pilot records" broad term, if company doesnt keep much on file, they dont turn over much on file
I believe PRIA can only compel another 121/135 to turn over records aka RJ dude going to majors
if you are flying a King Air 90 for local bank under Part 91 they do not have to turn anything over
(I believe)
03-29-2018, 04:07 PM
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03-29-2018, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BarrySeal
drug/alcohol positive tests if exist
"pilot records" broad term, if company doesnt keep much on file, they dont turn over much on file
I believe PRIA can only compel another 121/135 to turn over records aka RJ dude going to majors
if you are flying a King Air 90 for local bank under Part 91 they do not have to turn anything over
(I believe)
"pilot records" broad term, if company doesnt keep much on file, they dont turn over much on file
I believe PRIA can only compel another 121/135 to turn over records aka RJ dude going to majors
if you are flying a King Air 90 for local bank under Part 91 they do not have to turn anything over
(I believe)
There's no such thing as "Your PRIA".
PRIA is a law which allows and requires airlines (and 135/91K) to access several third party records before hiring pilots:
- Certain FAA records
- Certain training records from past aviation employers
- National Driver Register
121/135/91k are required to maintain and return PRIA-specific records. Past part 91 employers are not required to maintain records, but if they do, they are supposed to respond with what they have.
The AC linked above has details.
But that's only the beginning. Any person or employer can also initiate a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request to the FAA, which will require them to essentially provide ALL of their records on you. The only exception would be certain sensitive records such as medical details. Some employers do FOIA for all job candidates, so assume anything in your FAA file is fair game. You can also FOIA yourself, and should do this so you know what's there.
Also pull your current employer PRIA records (there was an error in mine, a failure was indicated but I never had one
). You cannot access past employer's PRIA data, except when applying for a new job you can opt to get a copy of what they send (you should).Airlines will access DOT drug test records, which will show any past DOT test failure or refusal (not just aviation, any DOT tested position such as truck driver).
Last but not least, when they do your SIDA check, they'll access your FBI database which will show certain arrests and convictions. You can and should FOIA your FBI records as well.
03-29-2018, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Sort of.
There's no such thing as "Your PRIA".
PRIA is a law which allows and requires airlines (and 135/91K) to access several third party records before hiring pilots:
- Certain FAA records
- Certain training records from past aviation employers
- National Driver Register
121/135/91k are required to maintain and return PRIA-specific records. Past part 91 employers are not required to maintain records, but if they do, they are supposed to respond with what they have.
The AC linked above has details.
But that's only the beginning. Any person or employer can also initiate a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request to the FAA, which will require them to essentially provide ALL of their records on you. The only exception would be certain sensitive records such as medical details. Some employers do FOIA for all job candidates, so assume anything in your FAA file is fair game. You can also FOIA yourself, and should do this so you know what's there.
Also pull your current employer PRIA records (there was an error in mine, a failure was indicated but I never had one ). You cannot access past employer's PRIA data, except when applying for a new job you can opt to get a copy of what they send (you should).
Airlines will access DOT drug test records, which will show any past DOT test failure or refusal (not just aviation, any DOT tested position such as truck driver).
Last but not least, when they do your SIDA check, they'll access your FBI database which will show certain arrests and convictions. You can and should FOIA your FBI records as well.
There's no such thing as "Your PRIA".
PRIA is a law which allows and requires airlines (and 135/91K) to access several third party records before hiring pilots:
- Certain FAA records
- Certain training records from past aviation employers
- National Driver Register
121/135/91k are required to maintain and return PRIA-specific records. Past part 91 employers are not required to maintain records, but if they do, they are supposed to respond with what they have.
The AC linked above has details.
But that's only the beginning. Any person or employer can also initiate a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request to the FAA, which will require them to essentially provide ALL of their records on you. The only exception would be certain sensitive records such as medical details. Some employers do FOIA for all job candidates, so assume anything in your FAA file is fair game. You can also FOIA yourself, and should do this so you know what's there.
Also pull your current employer PRIA records (there was an error in mine, a failure was indicated but I never had one
). You cannot access past employer's PRIA data, except when applying for a new job you can opt to get a copy of what they send (you should).Airlines will access DOT drug test records, which will show any past DOT test failure or refusal (not just aviation, any DOT tested position such as truck driver).
Last but not least, when they do your SIDA check, they'll access your FBI database which will show certain arrests and convictions. You can and should FOIA your FBI records as well.
great reply above
you can be absolutely certain "arrest history" (not necessarily a conviction of said offense), traffic tickets, FAA violations/etc, will also be part of a background check, to include possibly a credit check. In addition to PRIA
04-01-2018, 01:52 PM
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Great reply. So they see your checkride failures, like if you failed a PPL or a CPL. Thanks a ton
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Sort of.
There's no such thing as "Your PRIA".
PRIA is a law which allows and requires airlines (and 135/91K) to access several third party records before hiring pilots:
- Certain FAA records
- Certain training records from past aviation employers
- National Driver Register
121/135/91k are required to maintain and return PRIA-specific records. Past part 91 employers are not required to maintain records, but if they do, they are supposed to respond with what they have.
The AC linked above has details.
But that's only the beginning. Any person or employer can also initiate a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request to the FAA, which will require them to essentially provide ALL of their records on you. The only exception would be certain sensitive records such as medical details. Some employers do FOIA for all job candidates, so assume anything in your FAA file is fair game. You can also FOIA yourself, and should do this so you know what's there.
Also pull your current employer PRIA records (there was an error in mine, a failure was indicated but I never had one ). You cannot access past employer's PRIA data, except when applying for a new job you can opt to get a copy of what they send (you should).
Airlines will access DOT drug test records, which will show any past DOT test failure or refusal (not just aviation, any DOT tested position such as truck driver).
Last but not least, when they do your SIDA check, they'll access your FBI database which will show certain arrests and convictions. You can and should FOIA your FBI records as well.
There's no such thing as "Your PRIA".
PRIA is a law which allows and requires airlines (and 135/91K) to access several third party records before hiring pilots:
- Certain FAA records
- Certain training records from past aviation employers
- National Driver Register
121/135/91k are required to maintain and return PRIA-specific records. Past part 91 employers are not required to maintain records, but if they do, they are supposed to respond with what they have.
The AC linked above has details.
But that's only the beginning. Any person or employer can also initiate a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request to the FAA, which will require them to essentially provide ALL of their records on you. The only exception would be certain sensitive records such as medical details. Some employers do FOIA for all job candidates, so assume anything in your FAA file is fair game. You can also FOIA yourself, and should do this so you know what's there.
Also pull your current employer PRIA records (there was an error in mine, a failure was indicated but I never had one
). You cannot access past employer's PRIA data, except when applying for a new job you can opt to get a copy of what they send (you should).Airlines will access DOT drug test records, which will show any past DOT test failure or refusal (not just aviation, any DOT tested position such as truck driver).
Last but not least, when they do your SIDA check, they'll access your FBI database which will show certain arrests and convictions. You can and should FOIA your FBI records as well.
03-11-2022, 04:20 AM
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PRIA and PRD
I have spoken to other pilots who have a PRIA event or 2 such as a checkride failure etc but when a potential new employer looks at the new FAA PRD database nothing is showing up. They even ran a check on themselves on the PRD and saw nothing.
I don’t know if the potential new employer would then send off an old school PRIA request but this is what I have been told. I also watched an online video on the PRD where they say that your past employment history is only in the PRD if you the pilot actually enter it.
So I believe they get all the FAA PRIA stuff such as accidents, drug tests, failed checkrides etc. on the PRD regardless however not necessarily any past company history, training records etc, dismissal for performance or other etc.
Im not 100% sure on this but from watching the video this seems to be the case as you have control as to whether your past employment history goes in there.
The new employer could then potentially send of an old paper copy PRIA and FOIA but whether they would is anybodys guess. So definitely worth being honest in your interview about any past transgressions.
I don’t know if the potential new employer would then send off an old school PRIA request but this is what I have been told. I also watched an online video on the PRD where they say that your past employment history is only in the PRD if you the pilot actually enter it.
So I believe they get all the FAA PRIA stuff such as accidents, drug tests, failed checkrides etc. on the PRD regardless however not necessarily any past company history, training records etc, dismissal for performance or other etc.
Im not 100% sure on this but from watching the video this seems to be the case as you have control as to whether your past employment history goes in there.
The new employer could then potentially send of an old paper copy PRIA and FOIA but whether they would is anybodys guess. So definitely worth being honest in your interview about any past transgressions.
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