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Old 06-23-2018, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kevbo View Post
If you are completely on the hook for training expenses, don't try to be a pilot. You will never recoup unless you make the majors early in life. Most of your competition is VERY well sponsored and will get that opportunity long before you will! The big money is at the top so the last guys to get picked never see it.
I mean I have saved up enough money throughout the years to pay for most of my training at the pace I choose. My only problem would be if it all went to waste if im unhirable.

Im not quite sure what your last 2 sentences meant. what opportunity?
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:50 PM
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I say if you want to fly go for it. Will you get on at a major, who knows. You will for sure get on at a regional, and I’m sure you would have no problems in Corprate either. Return on investment doesn’t take as long in the corprate world either. 4 years out of flight school and I was clearing 15K a month some months.
Money is not a huge huge issue for me. I want to pay for this career so that I can do a job that I would actually love for the rest of my life. But if I cant climb the ladder like my peers then im not sure this career is right for me. I dont want to be stuck as a regional captain while my peers are going to majors.
15k a month does sound very lucrative though.


Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Regionals won't care. Find a wholly owned with flow. But don't make another screw up of any kind, not a DUI, not a public argument with a significant other, ....nothing.

OH, and it wasn't unlucky, it was stupid, but that's OK, sort if. Being young enough, you will probably get some slack about your stupidity, everybody does stupid things when they are young. But you aren't young anymore.
YES YES! Im not trying to detract from what happened but YES I was really young and stupid, and in no way make the same decisions now.
If im able to interview I would be able to explain thoroughly what I did and how that experience has changed me for the better. Im just worried that they will throw out my application because it will have a check next to arrested section.

Im not saying my charges or jail time is minor, but if I successfully make it with a regional and serve there for many years as a captain, would the majors turn me down even with thousands of hours?

Honestly...I have no problem with serving in the military because thats what ive always wanted to do too. Its just it might make it really hard for me to make it to the airlines. Which is the end goal.
But at this point maybe the military might be a better option to fully prove that I am a responsible person.. Im ranting now...haha thank you
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:19 PM
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Why on earth do you think military service would make it hard for you to get to the airlines?
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Old 06-24-2018, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey1029 View Post
Money is not a huge huge issue for me. I want to pay for this career so that I can do a job that I would actually love for the rest of my life. But if I cant climb the ladder like my peers then im not sure this career is right for me.
If money isn’t an issue and you just want to fly who gives a rats behind if your peers go to the majors and you are a regional lifer? That doesn’t make any sense. If you want to fly and not make money there’s plenty of opportunities in aviation for that. Unless you want to make it to a major so you can make a boatload of cash your background shouldn’t be much of an issue.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger View Post
If money isn’t an issue and you just want to fly who gives a rats behind if your peers go to the majors and you are a regional lifer? That doesn’t make any sense. If you want to fly and not make money there’s plenty of opportunities in aviation for that. Unless you want to make it to a major so you can make a boatload of cash your background shouldn’t be much of an issue.
I mean if I cant get a chance to fly the bigger planes such as 787, a380s, etc...
Im pretty sure money is not all that comes with going to the bigs.
The prestige and being able to say im at the top of my profession.
My childhood dream was to fly the 747s. Now as I research and have new dreams I would really love to eventually fly the 787s.
And eventually fly over oceans. So I guess what im asking is if ill be able to fly the bigger planes across continents.
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:05 AM
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" So I guess what i'm asking is if ill be able to fly the bigger planes across continents.(?) "

You will know the answer to that in about 30 years. Unless you talk yourself out of it ...DON'T.

Have at it !

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Old 06-24-2018, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Stimpy the Kat View Post
" So I guess what i'm asking is if ill be able to fly the bigger planes across continents.(?) "

You will know the answer to that in about 30 years. Unless you talk yourself out of it ...DON'T.

Have at it !

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30 years?? Is that how long it takes to fly internationally?
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Old 06-24-2018, 07:38 PM
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30 years?? Is that how long it takes to fly internationally?
Again, that really depends on what you're flying and for whom.

Go fly ACMI cargo, and you'll be doing it on your first leg in many cases. You've got to get to that point, however it it won't be in the first few years. You also won't be making nearly the living that you would if you flew for a major airline.

If you do fly for a major airline, it really depends on the equipment, but long international routes tend to go senior and you'll wait your turn.

This is not a cut-to-the-front-of-the-line kind of business. Opportunities are as great at the moment as they've ever been. This will not last; the hiring in the industry is as cyclical as the economy, and it will crash, likely sooner than later. It's been doing well too long. When it does, furloughs begin, companies fold, aircraft get parked, careers change, and opportunities go away. This has been happening for a very long time.

Each time you experience such events in your career, and many of us have been through these cycles several times, you may stall, fall back, change directions, or simply wait it out, and the choice is seldom yours to make. Hang on for the ride and remember that you don't always get to drive the train.
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Old 06-24-2018, 07:41 PM
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30 years?? Is that how long it takes to fly internationally?

You can do it at any of the ACMIs (Kalitta, Atlas, etc) and as a newhire at both FedEx and UPS.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:10 AM
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You will do fine. I have one similar experience. I left my regional for a major few weeks ago. I have atleast 3 misdemeanors. Own it take responsibility. Convince them that you learned your lesson and that you’re different now.


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