Shot at endeavor 5 checkride failures.
09-05-2018, 01:42 PM
#121
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Originally Posted by tmontana6
I think there is messy accidents in both continents (AA587, NW225, ValueJet 592, etc)....
About Germanwings.... in Europe you need to pass an 4 hours a hard psychiatric and physiologic interview to get you class 1 cert. Some companies even use polygraph Here in the US, the medical is a really joke... I heard a month ago that a guy in the US crash his Citation in his wife's home after pass a night on jail because a dispute.
Air France and Lufthansa have one of best instruction center WW... with a very elevated high standards. Have you heard about the tests that you need to pass to get hired in Germany aviation? take a look... please and compare it.
btw, Quantas (European model company) never had crash, Easyjet never had crash, Ryanair never had a crash.... British had only was crash in 1985. I dont know from where is coming that European companies are worst that US in accidents...
Anyway, coming again to the point... how many of that accidents are related to primary training issues, or checkride failures...
Air France, Germanwings pilots have a pristine training clean record. btw, KTM Tenerife's captain that cause the worst accident in aviation history had the best training record in KLM history....
Is there a real correlation about checkride failures and accidents?
Colgan accident was the one that opened Pandora's box about records, and big percent of the aftermath political decisions was caused because Beverly Eckert died on that crash.
Failures in GA, you're trusting DPE criteria and judgement, and after what I saw for many years I found lot of this designees with more issues in judgement than the applicants. Of course there is good professionals but delegating the examination authority and allow a dirty black market (700$ average per checkride, cash money) was a horrible idea.
I truly believe that a test that is going to impact all life employment applicant history should be administered by a federal worker without involving cash money.
About Germanwings.... in Europe you need to pass an 4 hours a hard psychiatric and physiologic interview to get you class 1 cert. Some companies even use polygraph Here in the US, the medical is a really joke... I heard a month ago that a guy in the US crash his Citation in his wife's home after pass a night on jail because a dispute.
Air France and Lufthansa have one of best instruction center WW... with a very elevated high standards. Have you heard about the tests that you need to pass to get hired in Germany aviation? take a look... please and compare it.
btw, Quantas (European model company) never had crash, Easyjet never had crash, Ryanair never had a crash.... British had only was crash in 1985. I dont know from where is coming that European companies are worst that US in accidents...
Anyway, coming again to the point... how many of that accidents are related to primary training issues, or checkride failures...
Air France, Germanwings pilots have a pristine training clean record. btw, KTM Tenerife's captain that cause the worst accident in aviation history had the best training record in KLM history....
Is there a real correlation about checkride failures and accidents?
Colgan accident was the one that opened Pandora's box about records, and big percent of the aftermath political decisions was caused because Beverly Eckert died on that crash.
Failures in GA, you're trusting DPE criteria and judgement, and after what I saw for many years I found lot of this designees with more issues in judgement than the applicants. Of course there is good professionals but delegating the examination authority and allow a dirty black market (700$ average per checkride, cash money) was a horrible idea.
I truly believe that a test that is going to impact all life employment applicant history should be administered by a federal worker without involving cash money.
Australia and Canada probably have the most comparable systems to the US (robust general aviation to feed airlines). AU has at least equal or better safety than the US.
But I'm just having a philosophical discussion. IMO people who can fly the plane are safer pilots than people who can build the plane. You can google the actual statistics and see for yourself.
I agree that US part 91 checking is inconsistent.
09-08-2018, 11:59 AM
#122
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Do not get discouraged to the point where you don't apply. Here are my three pieces of advice...
1. Go face to face with these recruiters and explain what your situation is.
2. Learn how to explain your failures with phrases other than "my instructor told me or didnt tell me." and "the examiner was hard because etc."... I know youre just posting on the forum but I hope you would never explain youre failures like that to an employer. Own up to the failures and learn from them.
3. Do not focus on just EDV, become more open minded to other regionals and 135 ops. Youre chances of being a 121 pilot are greater if you are willing to go to other airlines. That goes for everyone.
Best of Luck
1. Go face to face with these recruiters and explain what your situation is.
2. Learn how to explain your failures with phrases other than "my instructor told me or didnt tell me." and "the examiner was hard because etc."... I know youre just posting on the forum but I hope you would never explain youre failures like that to an employer. Own up to the failures and learn from them.
3. Do not focus on just EDV, become more open minded to other regionals and 135 ops. Youre chances of being a 121 pilot are greater if you are willing to go to other airlines. That goes for everyone.
Best of Luck
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