Shot at endeavor 5 checkride failures.
07-09-2018, 07:38 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by thepesimist
Up to this point I flew piper aircraft which had rudder trim and I did not have any instructors which teach me to use rudders in turns. I'm sorry to sound cross, but I hope you understand how ridiculous this sounds. Please don't provide this excuse, or any other excuse, at an interview. A single-engine piper with rudder trim would still require use of rudder pedals for coordinated turns, so you're wrong anyway.
CFI 2nd Attempt : Examiner had me do over maneuvers in which I did correctly before for some reason. This time he failed me since he did not like the way I used trim. I realize I would never get my cfi with this examiner so went to Orlando FSDO instead. Telling the interviewers that you ducked an examiner because you could not meet his standards, only tells them you are a substandard pilot. If you didn't know how to use the trim, you shouldn't have passed. Don't give excuses.
I notice dark cumulonimbus cloud while under foggles for approach (was already underneath clouds when I notice) and thought examiner would have me cancel or something. After getting the crap knock out of me I completely forgot what the hell I was doing and return to straight and level flight. Of course this led to full scale deflection and fail. You are the pilot. It is your responsibility to maintain aircraft control. It is your responsibility to be aware of the weather. If you noticed something you weren't comfortable with but failed to communicate your concern to the examiner, that is also on you.
CFI 2nd Attempt : Examiner had me do over maneuvers in which I did correctly before for some reason. This time he failed me since he did not like the way I used trim. I realize I would never get my cfi with this examiner so went to Orlando FSDO instead. Telling the interviewers that you ducked an examiner because you could not meet his standards, only tells them you are a substandard pilot. If you didn't know how to use the trim, you shouldn't have passed. Don't give excuses.
I notice dark cumulonimbus cloud while under foggles for approach (was already underneath clouds when I notice) and thought examiner would have me cancel or something. After getting the crap knock out of me I completely forgot what the hell I was doing and return to straight and level flight. Of course this led to full scale deflection and fail. You are the pilot. It is your responsibility to maintain aircraft control. It is your responsibility to be aware of the weather. If you noticed something you weren't comfortable with but failed to communicate your concern to the examiner, that is also on you.
As previously said, I do not think Endeavor would hire you in the near future with your current credentials. My advice to you would be to gain a lot more flying experience and hit the books hard before even thinking about an airline. Maybe get a type rating at a Part 91/135 and some operating experience. Show that you can pass a training program and maintain a good operational record, and you may be looked upon more favorably. But if you come to an interview with these excuses, you will not succeed. Anywhere.
Good luck.
07-09-2018, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thepesimist
Got multi finally.
Other than the screaming examiner the issues you failed on are basic 121 maneuvers that we spend very little time teaching.
If you struggle with rudder control how are you going to perform an engine failure at V1?
How are you going to react to a reactive Windshear at 300 feet on approach when you don’t react properly to turbulence on approach?
Yes we grade steep turns in 121 and you can only get retrained twice, either twice on the same maneuver or once on two maneuvers and then you end up as a retrain.
I would be having a discussion with you about not having an airport diagram out as well and that includes the proper low visibility charts if necessary. Not only is it required by the FAA and company it also shows professionalism. I know SFO like the back of my hand but I still have the charts out.
All of the 5 checkrides you busted and the reasons you busted them is less than half the things we evaluate in a 2hr sim session. So take a long hard look and decide if 121 flying is right for you.
07-09-2018, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis
It sounds to me as if you prefer to be spoon-fed through your training. You will not be spoon-fed in a 121 training program. You will be fire-hosed every day of class, and a lot of the information and procedural knowledge you will be tested on will have to be self-taught on your own time. The check rides are tough. The line can get tough. To be ready for all this, I think you need a serious change of attitude. Airlines hire professional pilots. You are expected to have your stuff together pretty solid before you arrive.
As previously said, I do not think Endeavor would hire you in the near future with your current credentials. My advice to you would be to gain a lot more flying experience and hit the books hard before even thinking about an airline. Maybe get a type rating at a Part 91/135 and some operating experience. Show that you can pass a training program and maintain a good operational record, and you may be looked upon more favorably. But if you come to an interview with these excuses, you will not succeed. Anywhere.
Good luck.
As previously said, I do not think Endeavor would hire you in the near future with your current credentials. My advice to you would be to gain a lot more flying experience and hit the books hard before even thinking about an airline. Maybe get a type rating at a Part 91/135 and some operating experience. Show that you can pass a training program and maintain a good operational record, and you may be looked upon more favorably. But if you come to an interview with these excuses, you will not succeed. Anywhere.
Good luck.
07-09-2018, 08:06 PM
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Quite honestly I’m unsure how you obtained even a private, given that “read, speak, and write English” is the first requirement. Sorry to be the bad guy but you don’t belong anywhere near the front end of a jet carrying 50-76 people. Nor do I want to share a flight deck with you and correct your errors while trying to do my own job. Not being able to shoot an approach because “nervous” and “turbulence” aren’t going to cut it. Try ameriflight...or Mesa
07-09-2018, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thepesimist
I don't think wanting my first instructor teaching me to fly correct is me wanting to get spoon-fed information. I read airplane flying handbook during my ppl but no instructor ever mention anything about my rudder usage so didn't think it was important. Now that I am cfi I make sure my students know the importance of rudder and I am constantly getting students from other instructors who have no rudder experience. Thanks for advice.
You have a long way to go. I wish you luck, you will need lots of it.
07-10-2018, 04:29 AM
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The chances of getting on with any regional except maybe Mesa are slim to none. The chances are even worse considering how many excuses you made. We don't like excuses. Be a man, take ownership, and come out having learned something from your experiences. I sincerely hope you didn't list these reasons on airlineapps. Sorry to be harsh but it's the truth. If you struggled this much during your flight training, airline training probably is going to go well for you.
Side note, you don't like a native English speaker. I would STRONGLY advise having someone who is check and double check your app. You already have two major strikes against you (# of failures and excuses). You don't need a third.
Side note, you don't like a native English speaker. I would STRONGLY advise having someone who is check and double check your app. You already have two major strikes against you (# of failures and excuses). You don't need a third.
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