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Labyer 09-06-2018 05:57 PM

Degree required
 
I’m about to attend a college in Washington state to get my certifications and hopefully a job flying. Upon finishing I will get an associates degree, from what I’ve heard you really can’t do much unless you have a bachelors. Is this true? Am I pretty much SOL without a bachelors? Or can I still land a job with a major airline?

KC135 09-06-2018 06:04 PM

Most majors don't require a bachelors degree but all of the legacy airlines do.

Labyer 09-06-2018 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by KC135 (Post 2669775)
Most majors don't require a bachelors degree but all of the legacy airlines do.

So just to clarify, without a bachelors I’ll be stuck flying for regionals and small time airlines (not making much)

KC135 09-06-2018 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Labyer (Post 2669777)
So just to clarify, without a bachelors I’ll be stuck flying for regionals and small time airlines (not making much)

It depends on your definition of those two. Majors include low cost carriers such as Spirit, ALGT and B6. It's not hard to make $250k-$300k after upgrading at those 3 airlines. The legacies: AA, UAL, DAL, SWA, plus UPS, FDX all pay more and require degrees.

Labyer 09-06-2018 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by KC135 (Post 2669797)
It depends on your definition of those two. Majors include low cost carriers such as Spirit, ALGT and B6. It's not hard to make $250k-$300k after upgrading at those 3 airlines. The legacies: AA, UAL, DAL, SWA, plus UPS, FDX all pay more and require degrees.

Allright sweet. So I shouldn’t be to screwed. Thanks for the info man.

Qotsaautopilot 09-06-2018 06:46 PM

I don’t by any means think that a bachelors degree is required to be successful in life. Far from it actually, but what is it with pilots thinking that there is a shortcut. Just get the dang degree! How many threads are there of guys with thousands of hours and great experience but they follow with “I don’t have my bachelors”. When we all got into this we knew that the jobs we got into flying for required a bachelors degree. JUST GET THE DEGREE!

Labyer 09-06-2018 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2669811)
I don’t by any means think that a bachelors degree is required to be successful in life. Far from it actually, but what is it with pilots thinking that there is a shortcut. Just get the dang degree! How many threads are there of guys with thousands of hours and great experience but they follow with “I don’t have my bachelors”. When we all got into this we knew that the jobs we got into flying for required a bachelors degree. JUST GET THE DEGREE!

I totally agree with you, however, it’s not really possible for me given my situation, there’s no four year schools near me that offer flight training. I’m using the GI bill so I have to get my degree from the place I’m doing flight training.

wilco811 09-06-2018 07:49 PM

Don’t get the degree! It’s a waste of time and money. Sooner or later a degree won’t even be required. The hiring mins have been going down anyways. Don’t need the 73 type for SWA. Lot of places don’t require PIC turbine anymore either. What’s next? The useless 4 year degree that had nothing to do with flying a plane. You can use that money to invest in someone else and just learn what you need to learn for free elsewhere. Have a good one.

Labyer 09-06-2018 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by wilco811 (Post 2669852)
Don’t get the degree! It’s a waste of time and money. Sooner or later a degree won’t even be required. The hiring mins have been going down anyways. Don’t need the 73 type for SWA. Lot of places don’t require PIC turbine anymore either. What’s next? The useless 4 year degree that had nothing to do with flying a plane. You can use that money to invest in someone else and just learn what you need to learn for free elsewhere. Have a good one.

that’s what makes sense to me.

ReadyRsv 09-06-2018 08:38 PM

Wilco is giving you terrible advice.

Get the degree. If you don't get a 4 year degree when getting your ratings you will need an extra 500 hours to get hired which will take pretty much as long as getting the 4 year degree. The bonus will be you won't be limiting yourself forever to save a year or two up front. The major forum is the wrong place to ask because even the new guy at UAL or DAL etc are 5-10 years removed from being in college, let alone entering college. Good luck. (Business Degree, RATP Look it up)


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