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Old 09-29-2018, 07:34 AM
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My original logbook included all my private pilot, multi engine, and some commercial hour building. At some point I decided I needed the Jepp Professional logbook.

I have a line in the new logbook carrying over all the totals from the original logbook.

My original logbook was in a flight bag that was stolen. That log book has my complex endorsement in it. (along with some checkrides, etc)

How do I handle interviews when they review my logbook? I have a bunch of flights in complex/high performance flights logged shortly after the logbook switch. Do I just explain those instructors verified the endorsement before those flights? I haven't flown a HP/Complex aircraft since, but don't want this to be a problem

Thanks for any advice!
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Old 09-29-2018, 08:15 AM
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You would probably never be asked to show proper endorsements for flights which occurred in the past, unless the FAA suspected some sort of fraud going on. So really you just need to get the endorsements logged on paper again before you exercise those privileges. The original instructor can just do a paperwork drill, ie re-construct the original endorsements as long as you know the exact dates. If the original instructor is not available, you'll need to have another instructor actually give you the training and a new endorsement (in that case prepare a signed written statement explaining why you had flights before the date of the current endorsement, keep that in your logbook).

So you really only need to reconstruct endorsements for privileges you'll need, ie don't need your student solo endorsement, etc.

In the past a lost original log-book would be the kiss of death for major airlines (and some regionals), because they wanted to see all the original stuff from your training days, to help them sniff out fraudulent time logging. Nowadays most seem good with electronic logs, and if they do ask for paper logs would probably accept an explanation of stolen.



Word to the wise...

1. Keep your original paper books in a fireproof safe or safe-deposit box.
2. Never leave it unattended if it's not locked up in the safe. They get stolen out of cars ALL the time. I mean this happens every single day.
3. Make photocopies of all original student endorsements and training pages up through CFI certs. Scan and store in the cloud. Backup the e-logbook in the cloud too.

Once you start at the airlines, nobody will care about paper books for 121 time since most of us download the times from the airline schedule system and import directly into e-logbooks. Also they have PRIA to independently verify that you worked for the airlines.
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Old 09-29-2018, 08:27 AM
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It's been a while, but a form 8510 on file at the FAA in connection with an issued certificate was proof that you met the requirements for a rating. With IACRA I'm not sure, but it seems like it'd make the process easier. Maybe a call to the airman certification branch would help.

With no ratings, the easiest way would be to work with your CFI to reconstruct your logbook and endorsements.
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Old 09-29-2018, 08:36 AM
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^^^ I believe awax means FAA Form 8710, Application for Airman certificate or rating. Request a copy of your complete Airman file from FAA Airman Records (AFS-760) . You can do this online and it does not cost much.
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Originally Posted by awax View Post
It's been a while, but a form 8510 on file at the FAA in connection with an issued certificate was proof that you met the requirements for a rating. With IACRA I'm not sure, but it seems like it'd make the process easier. Maybe a call to the airman certification branch would help.

With no ratings, the easiest way would be to work with your CFI to reconstruct your logbook and endorsements.
Yes, you'd want to get copies of your 8510's for your checkrides, that helps to validate your experience and provides a reality check of what you logged vs. when you took checkrides. Technically not a substitute for endorsements though.
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