Continuing MEI training or finding a job
10-08-2018, 06:07 PM
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Continuing MEI training or finding a job
I’m currently training for my MEI and I’ve done all my training with ATP flight school and I am, at the very least, unhappy with my training at ATP. I’ve only failed one checkride (Comm MEL oral) and I started from PPL in January (feelin a bit burnt out too). I have no desire to instruct, but I’ve technically already paid for the MEI training so it seems like a waste to just quit there. I’m at 215tt and I’m looking at applying at a few 135s as an FO. What other low time options do you suggest that doesn’t involve instructing. I’m just wondering what advice anyone has with my situation.
Thanks!
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10-08-2018, 07:46 PM
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I would highly recommend finishing your CFI ratings with ATP. You’ll be glad you did. It’s a good backup plan. I planned on instructing but decided against it. I still finished and got my CFI, CFII, & MEI. The low time jobs that come to mind are aerial survey (Skylens, Sandhills, Landcare). I would assume the hiring is complete for the start of the season. Get the CFI ratings!
10-09-2018, 06:36 AM
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At this point you have the luxury of choosing how to build time. The MEI will give you a few extra points on major airline apps, and it's a lot easier to do it now than after five years in the airlines. You don't have to use it to get the points, just keep your CFI tickets renewed every two years.
Whatever you do, don't fail another checkride. MEI might be safer in that regard than 135 training but that depends on the quality of the training at ATP and the 135 op.
Whatever you do, don't fail another checkride. MEI might be safer in that regard than 135 training but that depends on the quality of the training at ATP and the 135 op.
10-09-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
At this point you have the luxury of choosing how to build time. The MEI will give you a few extra points on major airline apps, and it's a lot easier to do it now than after five years in the airlines. You don't have to use it to get the points, just keep your CFI tickets renewed every two years.
Whatever you do, don't fail another checkride. MEI might be safer in that regard than 135 training but that depends on the quality of the training at ATP and the 135 op.
Whatever you do, don't fail another checkride. MEI might be safer in that regard than 135 training but that depends on the quality of the training at ATP and the 135 op.
10-16-2018, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by UrkaDurka
That’s another reason I don’t really wanna continue the with the instructor ratings. It’s more risk of having another bust.
Interviewer: "So tell me about your checkride failure."
You: "It was on the XXX checkride. I messed up in the following way. Evaluating my performance, I learned that I should have done this differently. I incorporated what I learned, re-checked successfully. I learned from my mistake and haven't duplicated that error."
Even if you have more than one failure, as long as they weren't for the same thing, this formula works.
1. Take ownership of the failure (don't play the 'blame game')
2. Learned from the failure
3. Didn't duplicate the failure
10-16-2018, 10:03 AM
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Having the MEI also looks good on a resume.
Low-time option: Look up Air Cargo Carriers (company based in MKE). They fly Shorts 3-30/3-60s. Part 135 feeder for UPS and cargo charter. I don't know what their minimums are.
https://www.aircargocarriers.com/careers/
Low-time option: Look up Air Cargo Carriers (company based in MKE). They fly Shorts 3-30/3-60s. Part 135 feeder for UPS and cargo charter. I don't know what their minimums are.
https://www.aircargocarriers.com/careers/
10-16-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs
Interviewer: "So tell me about your checkride failure."
You: "It was on the XXX checkride. I messed up in the following way. Evaluating my performance, I learned that I should have done this differently. I incorporated what I learned, re-checked successfully. I learned from my mistake and haven't duplicated that error."
Even if you have more than one failure, as long as they weren't for the same thing, this formula works.
1. Take ownership of the failure (don't play the 'blame game')
2. Learned from the failure
3. Didn't duplicate the failure
You: "It was on the XXX checkride. I messed up in the following way. Evaluating my performance, I learned that I should have done this differently. I incorporated what I learned, re-checked successfully. I learned from my mistake and haven't duplicated that error."
Even if you have more than one failure, as long as they weren't for the same thing, this formula works.
1. Take ownership of the failure (don't play the 'blame game')
2. Learned from the failure
3. Didn't duplicate the failure
He said he did his checkride with a known hard DPE, who used unfair standards just to fail him. And his CFI signed him off way too early for the ride.
He's still a CFI, at 2000 hours, and 4 or 5 failed interviews. He just got hired by Mesa
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