When to apply to the legacies?
10-19-2018, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by elliot1
My situation is similar. I was at a Regional for two years, where I upgraded to CA just before getting picked up by a C-17 Reserve Unit (on mil leave from the airline). I'll be off seasoning in a few months. It will be a challenge juggling two jobs of course, but I am thankful for both opportunities. I know my TPIC could use a boost, but I hear that some folks get hired with 0. Based on my stats, am I in the competitive window or on track to being hired at a Major? Thanks for the insight.
3300 TT, 1300 SIC, 0 TPIC, BS & MS honors, UPT DG, volunteer service, will attend job fairs and seek Letters of Rec ASAP, Emerald Coast prep, Checked and Set App review, 26 yrs old
3300 TT, 1300 SIC, 0 TPIC, BS & MS honors, UPT DG, volunteer service, will attend job fairs and seek Letters of Rec ASAP, Emerald Coast prep, Checked and Set App review, 26 yrs old
10-21-2018, 07:21 AM
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Rick air and I often agree but not here - IMO you’re on the bottom edge of being considered. Get your 121 upgrade, and/or mil upgrade, and you should be very competitive. A 1000 hrs 121 PIC is even better. Focus on achieving that ASAP and then your C-17 upgrade.
Part of ‘how competitive am I’ is age related, how do you stack up vs the other 26 yr olds? That is a factor in the matrix.
If you upgrade you’d be a 4,000 hr 121 Captain, who’s military trained, at 27 yrs old. That is a good resume for a 27 yr old. At 40 you’d be a nobody competing against the majority of 40yr olds.
Part of ‘how competitive am I’ is age related, how do you stack up vs the other 26 yr olds? That is a factor in the matrix.
If you upgrade you’d be a 4,000 hr 121 Captain, who’s military trained, at 27 yrs old. That is a good resume for a 27 yr old. At 40 you’d be a nobody competing against the majority of 40yr olds.
10-21-2018, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Rick air and I often agree but not here - IMO you’re on the bottom edge of being considered. Get your 121 upgrade, and/or mil upgrade, and you should be very competitive. A 1000 hrs 121 PIC is even better. Focus on achieving that ASAP and then your C-17 upgrade.
Part of ‘how competitive am I’ is age related, how do you stack up vs the other 26 yr olds? That is a factor in the matrix.
If you upgrade you’d be a 4,000 hr 121 Captain, who’s military trained, at 27 yrs old. That is a good resume for a 27 yr old. At 40 you’d be a nobody competing against the majority of 40yr olds.
Part of ‘how competitive am I’ is age related, how do you stack up vs the other 26 yr olds? That is a factor in the matrix.
If you upgrade you’d be a 4,000 hr 121 Captain, who’s military trained, at 27 yrs old. That is a good resume for a 27 yr old. At 40 you’d be a nobody competing against the majority of 40yr olds.
But absolutely get the apps out now, you never know. Regional FO's with PIC and no mil background have been hired.
10-24-2018, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
Not trying to change the thread topic but I hear the phrases, often, and would love some clarification. Regarding airlines, what are the "big 6" or "first tier", "second tier", etc.?
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The "tiers" are less defined. First Tier probably means Big Six, maybe include the other two legacies.
Second Tier is in the eye of the beholder. Jet Blue is probably the only airline which no one would debate as being second tier. AS, HI, NK, might also be considered second tier.
Third Tier would be all the other majors, not including ACMI
Cargo and ACMI are their own thing I guess, other than FDX/UPS which are light years better than other cargo outfits.
Regionals are regionals. Bottom feeders usually means mesa and go-jet, but those are some blurry lines as well.
10-24-2018, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
"Big Six" means AA/DL/UA/FDX/UPS/SWA. Those are going to be the best airline jobs for most people, if you can get one. If you have at least 50 combat missions in a fighter and are a weapons school grad, you should hold out for one these.
The "tiers" are less defined. First Tier probably means Big Six, maybe include the other two legacies.
Second Tier is in the eye of the beholder. Jet Blue is probably the only airline which no one would debate as being second tier. AS, HI, NK, might also be considered second tier.
Third Tier would be all the other majors, not including ACMI
Cargo and ACMI are their own thing I guess, other than FDX/UPS which are light years better than other cargo outfits.
Regionals are regionals. Bottom feeders usually means mesa and go-jet, but those are some blurry lines as well.
The "tiers" are less defined. First Tier probably means Big Six, maybe include the other two legacies.
Second Tier is in the eye of the beholder. Jet Blue is probably the only airline which no one would debate as being second tier. AS, HI, NK, might also be considered second tier.
Third Tier would be all the other majors, not including ACMI
Cargo and ACMI are their own thing I guess, other than FDX/UPS which are light years better than other cargo outfits.
Regionals are regionals. Bottom feeders usually means mesa and go-jet, but those are some blurry lines as well.
10-24-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
Thanks! What categories would companies like NetJets, XO Jet, etc. fall into? Or is it not even comparable once you get past the regionals?
10-24-2018, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Those a fractionals, not really airlines so apples to oranges. Fractionals do have some airline-like qualities, from a pilot perspective they are a hybrid between corporate aviation and airlines. They are generally considered better than regionals, but not as good as majors. But again, it's apples to oranges, so it depends on your needs and wants.
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