Misdemeanors and Airline Pilots
12-17-2018, 11:38 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
Get the Fu*& off your high horse there mister. You are never helpful with anything you post, and are an arrogant and condescending prick
Oh......and I'm sure you were just PERFECT when you were 18. Puleaseeee. My God.......
To the OP, DON'T take anything seriously from John Burke, he's nothing but a holier than thou loudmouth. DO stay completely clean going forward however
Rickair7777 has given you some great advice, on the other hand.
Oh......and I'm sure you were just PERFECT when you were 18. Puleaseeee. My God.......
To the OP, DON'T take anything seriously from John Burke, he's nothing but a holier than thou loudmouth. DO stay completely clean going forward however
Rickair7777 has given you some great advice, on the other hand.
Your god? Have you one?
What was I doing at 18? Flying formation under powerlines doing ag work in Kansas, and for god damn sure not high on drugs.
This isn't about me: it's about the original poster. Try to remember that, and make an effort to address that fact, next time you post
If you're able.
12-17-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
While some will try to tell you all about how to skate out from under this stupidity, you may need to realize that aviation may not be for you.
Aviation is about judgment, to which end you've demonstrated zero. A semester into your first year in an aviation program, and already arrested for drugs. Exactly the person that most want as the captain on their flight, right? Not.
Grow a brain. Get new friends. It's unfortunate to say, but you might still get a regional job, so hungry are the regionals today.
Flight costs are tough. Even harder when you're spending your money on drugs.
"I'm learning a lot" sounds a lot better as "I learned a lot" with ample time to prove it. You don't have that time behind you now. Prove it.
Aviation is about judgment, to which end you've demonstrated zero. A semester into your first year in an aviation program, and already arrested for drugs. Exactly the person that most want as the captain on their flight, right? Not.
Grow a brain. Get new friends. It's unfortunate to say, but you might still get a regional job, so hungry are the regionals today.
Flight costs are tough. Even harder when you're spending your money on drugs.
"I'm learning a lot" sounds a lot better as "I learned a lot" with ample time to prove it. You don't have that time behind you now. Prove it.
I appreciate your response John. First off, one mistake isn't showing zero judgement. I also want to say I wasn't arrested. I have a brain, one that's gonna have me done with my associates by the end of the next semester, my first year of college. I've spent no more than 50 bucks on any drugs my whole life. Oh, and I'll prove it. Thanks JB!!!
12-17-2018, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mketch11
Don’t listen to this garbage. Smoking weed/having a misdemeanor in college doesn’t make you a bad pilot. Some folks have gone on the be president of the United States after smoking weed illegally as teen and done just fine. People make mistakes. Most folks who make one mistake and are caught, usually end up a better person than the majority of people who make a similar mistake and don’t get caught. Try to get your charge expunged as best you can and get hired at a regional with a contractually guaranteed flow. Problem solved. 5 or 6 six years as a regional pilot and a couple years as PIC at the airlines says way more about you and your ability to be made of the right stuff than this past mistake. Good luck sir.
Thank you so much for the advice. My charge should be expunged in about a year, before I begin flying at UVU.
12-17-2018, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
You are not YET of no use except as a bad example for others, but you have likely cost yourself more money and career delay time (which in this business is also money) than you could have possibly believed when you opted to do a little weed.
Now all you can really do is put time between this episode and your intended future, time that will ultimately come from the last months or years before you retire. Time when you might have been making $30-40K a month.
Now all you can really do is put time between this episode and your intended future, time that will ultimately come from the last months or years before you retire. Time when you might have been making $30-40K a month.
12-17-2018, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
I see what you are saying about the time value of massive backend career earnings, but don't you think that its safe to say by the time he's competitive for a major to begin with (8-10 yrs perhaps), that the incident will be pretty darn far in the rearview mirror as to not make much difference in lost time?
Assuming he is SQUEAKY clean going forward of course?!!
To the OP: Also bend over backwards to make sure you don't even fail any checkrides too. That combine with this incident could also make it very difficult.
Assuming he is SQUEAKY clean going forward of course?!!
To the OP: Also bend over backwards to make sure you don't even fail any checkrides too. That combine with this incident could also make it very difficult.
12-17-2018, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
It’s a typical JB reply, what do you expect? I’m not condoning the OPs behavior, but I’m not going to automatically toss him into the drug addict pile.
Get a good lawyer. I here Saul Goodman is reputable.
You’re hireable, and that’s not “unfortunate”. Honestly do learn, and not just how to not get caught. I’m willing to bet you feel like sh!t right now. Remember that. Like R777 said, don’t even speed for the next 10 years. Heck, you might want to volunteer at a place that encourages people to not do drugs. Turn the whole thing on it’s head.
Get a good lawyer. I here Saul Goodman is reputable.
You’re hireable, and that’s not “unfortunate”. Honestly do learn, and not just how to not get caught. I’m willing to bet you feel like sh!t right now. Remember that. Like R777 said, don’t even speed for the next 10 years. Heck, you might want to volunteer at a place that encourages people to not do drugs. Turn the whole thing on it’s head.
12-17-2018, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
It’s a typical JB reply, what do you expect? I’m not condoning the OPs behavior, but I’m not going to automatically toss him into the drug addict pile.
Get a good lawyer. I here Saul Goodman is reputable.
You’re hireable, and that’s not “unfortunate”. Honestly do learn, and not just how to not get caught. I’m willing to bet you feel like sh!t right now. Remember that. Like R777 said, don’t even speed for the next 10 years. Heck, you might want to volunteer at a place that encourages people to not do drugs. Turn the whole thing on it’s head.
Get a good lawyer. I here Saul Goodman is reputable.
You’re hireable, and that’s not “unfortunate”. Honestly do learn, and not just how to not get caught. I’m willing to bet you feel like sh!t right now. Remember that. Like R777 said, don’t even speed for the next 10 years. Heck, you might want to volunteer at a place that encourages people to not do drugs. Turn the whole thing on it’s head.
12-17-2018, 03:16 PM
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Thank you to everybody for taking your time to respond to my questions!! I have received a lot of insight and advice!! Most of you have been super supportive and helpful. I might update as the process moves on!! I hope more young pilots read this, and realize how these little mistakes affect your future. cheers!!!
12-17-2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
And what have you contributed to this thread, brightspark?
Your god? Have you one?
What was I doing at 18? Flying formation under powerlines doing ag work in Kansas, and for god damn sure not high on drugs.
This isn't about me: it's about the original poster. Try to remember that, and make an effort to address that fact, next time you post
If you're able.
Your god? Have you one?
What was I doing at 18? Flying formation under powerlines doing ag work in Kansas, and for god damn sure not high on drugs.
This isn't about me: it's about the original poster. Try to remember that, and make an effort to address that fact, next time you post
If you're able.
Thanks for playing though.
