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SlipperyWing 12-15-2018 08:16 AM

Threats to the industry.
 
I'm a hopeful on the outside looking in, and I've been talking to numerous friends on the inside at different airlines about the airline life, pay, unions, a whole host of topics to get a feel for the career.

One of the questions I ask everyone is: "What is the largest threat you see to the industry?"

It's a vague question because each airline, and for that matter each pilot, could perceive different threats based on where they are in seniority, the financial health of the employer, exposure to specific market segments, etc.

Universally, the top response to the question is:

1) Another terror attack
2) Oil (fuel) prices
3) The economy
4)...

I think numbers 1 and 2 above are applicable to every airline, with oil prices having a different effect based on hedging strategy, fleet efficiency, and a few other factors.

The economy is a different player as there really isn't a good definition of how "the economy" affects airlines directly, since there really isn't a good definition of what "the economy" really is. The stock market isn't a direct indicator of the health of an economy, but it is a good indicator of how people direct their money.

As it applies to an airline, jobs are a significant indicator of the health of the economy. Employed people have money coming in, unemployed people don't (generally). Jobs growth, and secondarily wage growth is a positive thing for an airline, all other factors being the same.

From my perspective, the current pullback in the stock market is indicative of the health of the stock market, not necessarily reflective of the true health of the economy.

As a Southwest pilot, what do you see as the biggest threat to Southwest airlines, aside from the global influences mentioned above (terror attacks, etc.)?

Excargodog 12-15-2018 08:27 AM

Asteroid impact....

Definitely.

Psycho18th 12-15-2018 09:30 AM

Sold all SWA stock and updated the résumé when we stopped handing out peanuts. Definitely a sign of the end times.

at6d 12-15-2018 09:48 AM

Biggest threat is the walk around in blowing snow in Detroit and freezing my nuts off.

Jeff Lebowski 12-15-2018 09:55 AM

Elaine Chao.

2StgTurbine 12-15-2018 10:05 AM

There are enough things to worry about. Why add something out of your control to the list?

ROFF 12-15-2018 10:21 AM

This pretty much sums it all up for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhIVC1lnNHI

WHACKMASTER 12-15-2018 10:26 AM

Not being able to “capture” all of the captain seats during the next merger/buyout. Definitely the biggest threat to SWA pilots’ careers (even if we don’t have any orders/deliveries scheduled at the time).

Definitely....

WhaleSurfing 12-15-2018 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2725766)
Not being able to “capture” all of the captain seats during the next merger/buyout. Definitely the biggest threat to SWA pilots’ careers (even if we don’t have any orders/deliveries scheduled at the time).

Definitely....

Geeeeze Dude...

LET IT GO!!

160to4 12-15-2018 10:42 AM


There are enough things to worry about. Why add something out of your control to the list?
This, everyday of the week and weekends too.

If you read how many times our economy has gone into recession in our brief 250 year history, the results will shock you; 47 times!
But on the sunny side, SWA is probably the best place anyone would want to be when one happens!

Ivana Humpalot 12-15-2018 11:33 AM

Age 72-75-80?
 
The FAA raising the mandatory retirement age to 72 - 75 -or even 80.

gipple 12-15-2018 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2725766)
Not being able to “capture” all of the captain seats during the next merger/buyout. Definitely the biggest threat to SWA pilots’ careers (even if we don’t have any orders/deliveries scheduled at the time).

Definitely....

Accepting all those pilots knowing 2/3rds of the aircraft they work on are being sold.

2StgTurbine 12-15-2018 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2725766)
Not being able to “capture” all of the captain seats during the next merger/buyout. Definitely the biggest threat to SWA pilots’ careers (even if we don’t have any orders/deliveries scheduled at the time).

Definitely....

Most people get sick of walking around with a chip on their shoulder after a few years.

WhaleSurfing 12-15-2018 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by 160to4 (Post 2725779)
This, everyday of the week and weekends too.

If you read how many times our economy has gone into recession in our brief 250 year history, the results will shock you; 47 times!
But on the sunny side, SWA is probably the best place anyone would want to be when one happens!

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

Watch the last 10 minutes of the movie “Margin Call”. The speech by the CEO to Kevin Spacey says it all. “We (Wall Street) can’t help ourselves”.

JohnBurke 12-15-2018 06:03 PM

It's say it's the Big Mac.

It's not called a "mac attack" for nothing.

Bluesideup1 12-15-2018 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2725766)
Not being able to “capture” all of the captain seats during the next merger/buyout. Definitely the biggest threat to SWA pilots’ careers (even if we don’t have any orders/deliveries scheduled at the time).

Definitely....

Yup brought nothing to the Table for the SW pilots but you should most definitely have gotten all the Captain seats along with giant raises and better work rules.

It must suck that you didn't get all those captain seats how about we just give you a million dollars more than you would have made at a smaller carrier and ****. Because last time I checked the SW pilots got nothing. No extra pay, no bonus, no stock options just delayed movement and more people that came in on top of them.

Funny thing is most are over it but you keep that chip on your shoulder as I am sure it is making you lots of friends.


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