Low cost major instead of Regionals?
#11
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I suspect that most of the replies you are getting here are unfamiliar with the Ameriflight program that you reference. Not overly familiar myself but I think the basis of your question is rooted in the fact that Ameriflight has multiple guaranteed interview programs with other carriers; LCCs, ACMIs, and UPS.
I think it goes without saying that if you had an offer from a regional and a LCC you would go to the LCC if you are looking for QOL and pay. Ultimately, your career goals should establish where you gamble your career. The chase for the coveted 1000 PIC would almost certainly be attained at a regional airline than LCC or ACMI. So, which one places you at a legacy sooner?
Good luck with your decision; but mostly, just enjoy the ride and have fun flying.
I think it goes without saying that if you had an offer from a regional and a LCC you would go to the LCC if you are looking for QOL and pay. Ultimately, your career goals should establish where you gamble your career. The chase for the coveted 1000 PIC would almost certainly be attained at a regional airline than LCC or ACMI. So, which one places you at a legacy sooner?
Good luck with your decision; but mostly, just enjoy the ride and have fun flying.
#12
An interview isn’t a big deal though, right? If you want that just hit up a career fair. Maybe I’m missing something but that’s my initial reaction to these cargo guys/small carriers offering stuff like that.
I suspect that most of the replies you are getting here are unfamiliar with the Ameriflight program that you reference. Not overly familiar myself but I think the basis of your question is rooted in the fact that Ameriflight has multiple guaranteed interview programs with other carriers; LCCs, ACMIs, and UPS.
I think it goes without saying that if you had an offer from a regional and a LCC you would go to the LCC if you are looking for QOL and pay. Ultimately, your career goals should establish where you gamble your career. The chase for the coveted 1000 PIC would almost certainly be attained at a regional airline than LCC or ACMI. So, which one places you at a legacy sooner?
Good luck with your decision; but mostly, just enjoy the ride and have fun flying.
I think it goes without saying that if you had an offer from a regional and a LCC you would go to the LCC if you are looking for QOL and pay. Ultimately, your career goals should establish where you gamble your career. The chase for the coveted 1000 PIC would almost certainly be attained at a regional airline than LCC or ACMI. So, which one places you at a legacy sooner?
Good luck with your decision; but mostly, just enjoy the ride and have fun flying.
#13
I suspect that most of the replies you are getting here are unfamiliar with the Ameriflight program that you reference. Not overly familiar myself but I think the basis of your question is rooted in the fact that Ameriflight has multiple guaranteed interview programs with other carriers; LCCs, ACMIs, and UPS.
I think it goes without saying that if you had an offer from a regional and a LCC you would go to the LCC if you are looking for QOL and pay. Ultimately, your career goals should establish where you gamble your career. The chase for the coveted 1000 PIC would almost certainly be attained at a regional airline than LCC or ACMI. So, which one places you at a legacy sooner?
Good luck with your decision; but mostly, just enjoy the ride and have fun flying.
I think it goes without saying that if you had an offer from a regional and a LCC you would go to the LCC if you are looking for QOL and pay. Ultimately, your career goals should establish where you gamble your career. The chase for the coveted 1000 PIC would almost certainly be attained at a regional airline than LCC or ACMI. So, which one places you at a legacy sooner?
Good luck with your decision; but mostly, just enjoy the ride and have fun flying.
#14
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It's a carrot to keep the airline staffed; same as the flow agreements at the AA regionals. I would argue that an interview is a huge deal but your point is that until the program produces jobs at these carriers it is fruitless. I don't know the stats for successful interviews but I do know that Ameriflight has several individuals that have moved on to LCCs and ACMIs... and the first wave of candidates is interviewing at UPS. We'll see how many end up in class and wearing Pullman Brown pants -- that will be the ultimate test.
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It sounds like you're putting the LCC in the same category as the regional by asking "Should i go to an LCC or wholly owned regional?". There's captains who's been at the regionals for 10+ years and over 10,000 hrs and still waiting for a call from the LCC, that should tell you something. Most guys who are hired at the LCC has spent some time at the regionals and probably has built up some turbine PIC. I can only speak for Spirit, but most guys hired recently are Skywest or Expressjet captains.
#16
It sounds like you're putting the LCC in the same category as the regional by asking "Should i go to an LCC or wholly owned regional?". There's captains who's been at the regionals for 10+ years and over 10,000 hrs and still waiting for a call from the LCC, that should tell you something. Most guys who are hired at the LCC has spent some time at the regionals and probably has built up some turbine PIC. I can only speak for Spirit, but most guys hired recently are Skywest or Expressjet captains.
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To rephrase the question a bit, because it’s highly unlikely anyone without an “in” would get hired at Frontier, Spirit, etc. without turbine time, what are your thoughts on waiting at the regionals vs. using one of the low-cost carriers as a stepping stone to the Legacies?
Say the upgrade time is 2+ years at a regional. Would it be beneficial to try to get hired ASAP at an LCC and put off logging PIC turbine time in order to make more money and have a better contract? Or is it better to stay at the regional, get the PIC time and wait for to get called to a legacy?
I’ve heard getting out of the regionals as fast as possible is the way to go, but don’t know if going to an LCC would be a hindrance or a help getting to the legacies.
Say the upgrade time is 2+ years at a regional. Would it be beneficial to try to get hired ASAP at an LCC and put off logging PIC turbine time in order to make more money and have a better contract? Or is it better to stay at the regional, get the PIC time and wait for to get called to a legacy?
I’ve heard getting out of the regionals as fast as possible is the way to go, but don’t know if going to an LCC would be a hindrance or a help getting to the legacies.
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To rephrase the question a bit, because it’s highly unlikely anyone without an “in” would get hired at Frontier, Spirit, etc. without turbine time, what are your thoughts on waiting at the regionals vs. using one of the low-cost carriers as a stepping stone to the Legacies?
Say the upgrade time is 2+ years at a regional. Would it be beneficial to try to get hired ASAP at an LCC and put off logging PIC turbine time in order to make more money and have a better contract? Or is it better to stay at the regional, get the PIC time and wait for to get called to a legacy?
I’ve heard getting out of the regionals as fast as possible is the way to go, but don’t know if going to an LCC would be a hindrance or a help getting to the legacies.
Say the upgrade time is 2+ years at a regional. Would it be beneficial to try to get hired ASAP at an LCC and put off logging PIC turbine time in order to make more money and have a better contract? Or is it better to stay at the regional, get the PIC time and wait for to get called to a legacy?
I’ve heard getting out of the regionals as fast as possible is the way to go, but don’t know if going to an LCC would be a hindrance or a help getting to the legacies.
The other theory being they intentionally bankrupt their subsidiarie's labor supply while allowing competition to grow in their own backyard. This seems less logical but it's the airlines and a lot of times the leadership isn't exactly accused of making good financial decisions.
#20
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Hello, I am curious on of it would be worth going to one of the low cost majors (Allegiant, Frontier, Spirt) instead of going to a wholly owned regional like everyone else. I would like to end up at a Legacy eventually. However, I noticed that Ameriflight has an agreement with Allegiant and Frontier, just looking for opinions on this path. Btw I am just a CFI candidate still far from actually making this choice, just curious. Thanks
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