5 Checkride Failures, regionals?
05-03-2019, 02:54 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by sflpilot
One more thing about this whole situation. Anyone who fails that many upfront in the pilot training should not even be attempting the CFI. At that point if you are at three you would still be OK for the career. There are ways to build time with just a commercial. Banner towing and sightseeing tours come to mind.
05-03-2019, 03:55 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by DABAviator
Do the airlines care about total number of busts or do they consider how many you've taken? ie: 5 busts but taken 8 check rides or 2 bust but only took 3 checkrides?
Five is a very large number no matter how many checkrides have been taken.
05-07-2019, 10:23 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 31
Originally Posted by dera
AA WO won't process applications with 5 busts. You need it to be manually processed as a special case, and without prior 121 or military or other significant experience, they won't take you.
Who knows whether it was the 5 busts, or not disclosing the other 2 in the initial application. Either way, didn't look good.
08-12-2019, 06:10 AM
#48
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I failed the initial CFI 3x and my COMM/ME once. I was a bit of a dumbass in my early 20s. I got on with a top tier regional. They definitely asked about it in the interview but I owned the hell out of my failures and emphasized what I had learned from them. I also had over 20 years of accident/incident/violation-free flying and a fresh ATP between those failures and my regional interview. I upgraded in minimum time and I have zero failures in 121 training. Am I screwed at a major? Maybe. But the only way to ensure that I'm screwed is to not try.
08-12-2019, 06:45 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by Propwash72
I failed the initial CFI 3x and my COMM/ME once. I was a bit of a dumbass in my early 20s. I got on with a top tier regional. They definitely asked about it in the interview but I owned the hell out of my failures and emphasized what I had learned from them. I also had over 20 years of accident/incident/violation-free flying and a fresh ATP between those failures and my regional interview. I upgraded in minimum time and I have zero failures in 121 training. Am I screwed at a major? Maybe. But the only way to ensure that I'm screwed is to not try.
In your case, the pattern would be obvious: young kid doesn't know what he doesn't know, grows up, gets his act together, and now has a lengthy and solid record as a professional pilot. By the time you do a few recurrents and upgrade I think you'll have a shot at some or many majors. Maybe not DAL material (but may as well apply since it's the same app as UAL).
Cast a wide net when the time comes.
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