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AirborneGuy 06-16-2019 04:29 AM

Just got my PPL...Now what
 
Hello everyone, I just received my PPL and am looking to do all of my instrument rating, commercial rating and multi rating at the same time. I am interested in flying turbo props for a living. I was told to come to this site and would receive assistance and some guidance on what to do after I get the instrument, multi, and commercial ratings. Can anyone guide a new guy to the light, on the next steps? Is it just flight time or anything else?

Thank you!

lpcunity 06-16-2019 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by AirborneGuy (Post 2837558)
Hello everyone, I just received my PPL and am looking to do all of my instrument rating, commercial rating and multi rating at the same time. I am interested in flying turbo props for a living. I was told to come to this site and would receive assistance and some guidance on what to do after I get the instrument, multi, and commercial ratings. Can anyone guide a new guy to the light, on the next steps? Is it just flight time or anything else?

Thank you!

Congratulations. After you complete your ratings you will need to build your flight time. Getting your CFI and becoming an instructor is a popular option. There are other ways as well, like banner flying, aerial mapping, pipeline survey and traffic watch. I never got my CFI and went to a 135 operator in the right seat (Co-pilot) and built up my total time. I only made $1000 a month and work almost everyday but I got flight time quick. Getting enough multi time can be challenging, so work hard for it. Check out Ameriflight, they might have a right seat program. Flying turbo props is fun and keep in mind that you aviation goals will probably evolve as you progress. It’s seems to be good time to be a commercial aviator. Best of luck on your career progress.

Excargodog 06-16-2019 06:35 PM

Ameriflight does indeed have a first officer program:


All Pilot Positions

Commercial Pilot License with multi-engine land and instrument rating or Airline Transport Pilot License
Current Instrument Proficiency Check
English Proficient
High Performance and Complex logbook endorsements
FAA Medical, First or Second Class
FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit
Current Passport
Eligibility to work in the United States
Valid driver’s license
First Officer Positions

EMB120 FO: 500 TT, 25 ME, 100 XC (defined as point to point), 25 night, 350 PIC, 75 instrument
Accelerated Captain Program FO: 750 TT, 25 ME, 300 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 500 PIC, 75 instrument
Captain Positions

BE99 Captain: 1,200 TT, 50 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 500 PIC, 75 instrument
BE1900 Captain: 1,800 TT, 250 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 1,000 PIC, 100 instrument, 100 Turbine, 121 or 135 experience
SA227 Captain: 2,500 TT, 250 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 1,000 PIC, 100 instrument, 200 Turbine, 121 or 135 experience
EMB120 Captain: 3,000 TT, 500 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 1,000 PIC, 200 instrument, 500 Turbine, 121 or 135 experience

Hawkerpilot18 06-16-2019 07:01 PM

CFI, CFII, MEI then instruct for 2yrs(min), then you might be ready for the real world

AirborneGuy 06-17-2019 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by lpcunity (Post 2837827)
Congratulations. After you complete your ratings you will need to build your flight time. Getting your CFI and becoming an instructor is a popular option. There are other ways as well, like banner flying, aerial mapping, pipeline survey and traffic watch. I never got my CFI and went to a 135 operator in the right seat (Co-pilot) and built up my total time. I only made $1000 a month and work almost everyday but I got flight time quick. Getting enough multi time can be challenging, so work hard for it. Check out Ameriflight, they might have a right seat program. Flying turbo props is fun and keep in mind that you aviation goals will probably evolve as you progress. It’s seems to be good time to be a commercial aviator. Best of luck on your career progress.

Thank you for the info on Ameriflight, I am looking into it seems like their program is out of TX, I live in ATL. Something to look at though.



Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2837936)
Ameriflight does indeed have a first officer program:

Yes, and thank you for your time, and response.


Originally Posted by Hawkerpilot18 (Post 2837947)
CFI, CFII, MEI then instruct for 2yrs(min), then you might be ready for the real world

I have more questions for my CFI now and will ask next week. The school has been pushing for me to become a CFI. Seems like they have too many already. Thank you for your time!

captjns 06-17-2019 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by AirborneGuy (Post 2838022)
Thank you for the info on Ameriflight, I am looking into it seems like their program is out of TX, I live in ATL. Something to look at though.

Both flexibility and portability is must, especially, for an individual looking for a position with an airline. Upon reaching that 500 hour milestone, you’ll start building quality time, if you’re able to secure a position with Amerilight First Officer Program.

After a couple of years experience, with command time under the belt, you’ll then be marketable with regional, if not the majors, depending on their needs, and requirements.

Either way AirborneGuy don’t turn down any offer that offers consistent time building, in a multi engined turbine aircraft.

Enjoy the career.

SSlow 06-17-2019 01:27 PM

Depending on finances, knock out the rest of your training as quickly as you can and build experience in whatever you can before the next downturn, because it's coming sooner than later IMO. I found myself fresh out of college with a wet commercial and CFI during the last recession/age 65 rule change, and trust me it is not a place you want to be.

AirborneGuy 06-17-2019 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2838050)
Both flexibility and portability is must, especially, for an individual looking for a position with an airline. Upon reaching that 500 hour milestone, you’ll start building quality time, if you’re able to secure a position with Amerilight First Officer Program.

After a couple of years experience, with command time under the belt, you’ll then be marketable with regional, if not the majors, depending on their needs, and requirements.

Either way AirborneGuy don’t turn down any offer that offers consistent time building, in a multi engined turbine aircraft.

Enjoy the career.

Thank you so much. My wife and I are now planning to relocate pretty much anywhere, I can get on in the right seat. Thanks for the advice!


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2838374)
Depending on finances, knock out the rest of your training as quickly as you can and build experience in whatever you can before the next downturn, because it's coming sooner than later IMO. I found myself fresh out of college with a wet commercial and CFI during the last recession/age 65 rule change, and trust me it is not a place you want to be.

I have the GI Bill from the Military and I am hoping that takes care of the instrument, commercial and multi engine, I would like to get it all done ASAP. Then I will need the hours, which seems to be the tough part. Thanks for the advise

sourdough44 06-26-2019 04:43 PM

As posted, CFI. No need to get the CFI-I, or MEI right away.

kevbo 06-26-2019 07:16 PM

Consider quitting while you're ahead. You may be throwing good money after bad and missing out on better career opportunities.

vpbuzz 07-03-2019 11:39 AM

Average logged hours might a 135 right seater get per month?


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