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Old 06-24-2019, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk View Post
CJO does not equal “hired”. Until you are in class with a seniority number you aren’t “hired”. As pointed out by others things change in this industry. Regionals lose contracts, close bases... you name it. I would never turn down an interview until you have started a class. If possible, hold off on turning down a class date until you have started ground school. Even then hold off to a week out if possible.
I must have missed all those posts in the last 5 years from people complaining that their CJOs were pulled. It is always good to be cautious in this industry, but there is a fine line to being paranoid. Btw, one quick way to get on the bad side of an airline company is to cancel their CJO right before class date. If you are going to play that dangerous game, I recommend canceling it at least a few weeks beforehand to give them a chance to fill your seat with someone else.
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I must have missed all those posts in the last 5 years from people complaining that their CJOs were pulled. It is always good to be cautious in this industry, but there is a fine line to being paranoid. Btw, one quick way to get on the bad side of an airline company is to cancel their CJO right before class date. If you are going to play that dangerous game, I recommend canceling it at least a few weeks beforehand to give them a chance to fill your seat with someone else.
The last five years is a blip in this industry. As I wrote, a contract can be lost and classes cancelled. It’s happened more times in my career than I can count.
One week notice is plenty.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:15 AM
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To reinforce what others said...

Do not hang your hat on a CJO. If you have more than one, keep them in your hip pocket as long as you can.

In fact, I would hang on to a CJO even after starting class at another airline. You never know, they have sent new hires classes home with zero notice... airlines often hire right up until the day they furlough. While no major is likely to do that in this climate, if a small regional loses some flying they would quickly furlough while everyone is hiring.

1-2 weeks notice that you're declining a class date is sufficient. Two weeks if you're paranoid or the airline is owned by a legacy (assume they share info, and you could get black-balled from the legacy if you no-show a class date).
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Thank you very much for your input everyone, much appreciated.
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Old 06-26-2019, 12:40 PM
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To reinforce what others said...

Do not hang your hat on a CJO. If you have more than one, keep them in your hip pocket as long as you can.

In fact, I would hang on to a CJO even after starting class at another airline. You never know, they have sent new hires classes home with zero notice... airlines often hire right up until the day they furlough. While no major is likely to do that in this climate, if a small regional loses some flying they would quickly furlough while everyone is hiring.

1-2 weeks notice that you're declining a class date is sufficient. Two weeks if you're paranoid or the airline is owned by a legacy (assume they share info, and you could get black-balled from the legacy if you no-show a class date).
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Very helpful thread as I’m in that same stage next month or two
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
To reinforce what others said...

Do not hang your hat on a CJO. If you have more than one, keep them in your hip pocket as long as you can.

In fact, I would hang on to a CJO even after starting class at another airline. You never know, they have sent new hires classes home with zero notice... airlines often hire right up until the day they furlough. While no major is likely to do that in this climate, if a small regional loses some flying they would quickly furlough while everyone is hiring.

1-2 weeks notice that you're declining a class date is sufficient. Two weeks if you're paranoid or the airline is owned by a legacy (assume they share info, and you could get black-balled from the legacy if you no-show a class date).


How about for two majors, is two weeks enough of a notice to give?


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Old 06-27-2019, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vikeshunter View Post
How about for two majors, is two weeks enough of a notice to give?


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I would think two weeks is enough, unless they request more notice in writing. It's possible you might burn a bridge with a major anyway (they might be offended that you rejected their "opportunity of a lifetime"), but if you have two CJO's, obviously you have to pick one.

But with a little luck, you won't need to worry about ever applying again.
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk View Post
CJO does not equal “hired”. Until you are in class with a seniority number you aren’t “hired”. As pointed out by others things change in this industry. Regionals lose contracts, close bases... you name it. I would never turn down an interview until you have started a class. If possible, hold off on turning down a class date until you have started ground school. Even then hold off to a week out if possible.
And the way it used to be, you weren’t an employee til you passed training. Maybe that’s changed.
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And the way it used to be, you weren’t an employee til you passed training. Maybe that’s changed.
You get a seniority number and become an employee day 1 at most airlines now.
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