Moving from UK to USA
05-15-2023, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Definitely you can get a major job, which includes all narrowbody scheduled pax operators (in the US the term "regional" means fee for departure subcontractor).
Good chance you could get a top-tier job, but without an 4-year degree or TPIC that's not assured. But it would be worth the effort to do the interview prep and applications IMO.
US employers only give credit for foriegn degrees which are accredited with a US agency, I'm not sure where your 3-year fits into that. You should ask the school what if any US accreditation affiliation they have... you might have a 4-year equivalent, a 2-year equivalent, or nothing. If you have a 4-year equivalent, I'd say you're pretty competitive for top-tier right now.
Don't waste any time, hiring and seniority is moving very fast.
Good chance you could get a top-tier job, but without an 4-year degree or TPIC that's not assured. But it would be worth the effort to do the interview prep and applications IMO.
US employers only give credit for foriegn degrees which are accredited with a US agency, I'm not sure where your 3-year fits into that. You should ask the school what if any US accreditation affiliation they have... you might have a 4-year equivalent, a 2-year equivalent, or nothing. If you have a 4-year equivalent, I'd say you're pretty competitive for top-tier right now.
Don't waste any time, hiring and seniority is moving very fast.
The degree point is something I would have to look into, part of me thinks it wouldn't count for much as I don't think my University has any affliation with the USA, but who knows.
As appealing as it is to move over, right now wouldn't work for us with British citizenship on the horizon for my wife as well, but the hiring trend will be there for a while I would have thought, plus once i've got command time over here then that would help with future applications as well I would imagine.
05-16-2023, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GH95
Ok thanks for the response, that's very encouraging to here. A guy I trained with in the UK has just picked up a job at UAL with a similar level of experience to me, which would have been unheard of in years gone by...
The degree point is something I would have to look into, part of me thinks it wouldn't count for much as I don't think my University has any affliation with the USA, but who knows.
As appealing as it is to move over, right now wouldn't work for us with British citizenship on the horizon for my wife as well, but the hiring trend will be there for a while I would have thought, plus once i've got command time over here then that would help with future applications as well I would imagine.
The degree point is something I would have to look into, part of me thinks it wouldn't count for much as I don't think my University has any affliation with the USA, but who knows.
As appealing as it is to move over, right now wouldn't work for us with British citizenship on the horizon for my wife as well, but the hiring trend will be there for a while I would have thought, plus once i've got command time over here then that would help with future applications as well I would imagine.
05-16-2023, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
I would caution that the current pilot job market in the US is basically the best it’s ever been. Do not count on this lasting. Nobody knows exactly how long this will last, but delaying will not only hurt you if you do get hired but may result in your application hitting in a vastly different job market. If you don’t already have your green card, start now, USCIS is not known for moving quickly.
05-16-2023, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GH95
Ok thanks for the response, that's very encouraging to here. A guy I trained with in the UK has just picked up a job at UAL with a similar level of experience to me, which would have been unheard of in years gone by...
The degree point is something I would have to look into, part of me thinks it wouldn't count for much as I don't think my University has any affliation with the USA, but who knows.
As appealing as it is to move over, right now wouldn't work for us with British citizenship on the horizon for my wife as well, but the hiring trend will be there for a while I would have thought, plus once i've got command time over here then that would help with future applications as well I would imagine.
The degree point is something I would have to look into, part of me thinks it wouldn't count for much as I don't think my University has any affliation with the USA, but who knows.
As appealing as it is to move over, right now wouldn't work for us with British citizenship on the horizon for my wife as well, but the hiring trend will be there for a while I would have thought, plus once i've got command time over here then that would help with future applications as well I would imagine.
05-17-2023, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Definitely you can get a major job, which includes all narrowbody scheduled pax operators (in the US the term "regional" means fee for departure subcontractor).
Good chance you could get a top-tier job, but without an 4-year degree or TPIC that's not assured. But it would be worth the effort to do the interview prep and applications IMO.
US employers only give credit for foriegn degrees which are accredited with a US agency, I'm not sure where your 3-year fits into that. You should ask the school what if any US accreditation affiliation they have... you might have a 4-year equivalent, a 2-year equivalent, or nothing. If you have a 4-year equivalent, I'd say you're pretty competitive for top-tier right now.
Don't waste any time, hiring and seniority is moving very fast.
Good chance you could get a top-tier job, but without an 4-year degree or TPIC that's not assured. But it would be worth the effort to do the interview prep and applications IMO.
US employers only give credit for foriegn degrees which are accredited with a US agency, I'm not sure where your 3-year fits into that. You should ask the school what if any US accreditation affiliation they have... you might have a 4-year equivalent, a 2-year equivalent, or nothing. If you have a 4-year equivalent, I'd say you're pretty competitive for top-tier right now.
Don't waste any time, hiring and seniority is moving very fast.
05-17-2023, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
British high school grads planning on going to university can actually read and write English to college level proficiency before they go (they do 13 years of schooling vs US 12), so a 3 year Bachelors is equivalent to a US 4 year Bachelors.
HR requires that to avoid hiring folks with fake online degrees from the University of East Fookistan, etc.
Worth noting that the same applies to US schools, but all legit US schools have gotten US accredited for obvious reasons.
05-17-2023, 09:16 AM
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All these are important. The overriding key is getting everything in place, the sooner the better. Delays in getting on with the majors in the US costs significant seniority numbers. This can impact when you upgrade, where you fly, and your schedule.
05-17-2023, 10:25 AM
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You don’t even need a degree anymore. I have friends getting hired at United and American with no degrees. A friend of mine just got hired at Delta with a 2 year degree. Come on over, the water is warm. Commute from the UK until your wife gets citizenship. Then move over. Good luck.
05-20-2023, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That makes sense. But the specific program would still need to be approved by a recognized US accreditation organization for most employers to count it. Many foriegn programs are, but some don't bother.
HR requires that to avoid hiring folks with fake online degrees from the University of East Fookistan, etc.
Worth noting that the same applies to US schools, but all legit US schools have gotten US accredited for obvious reasons.
HR requires that to avoid hiring folks with fake online degrees from the University of East Fookistan, etc.
Worth noting that the same applies to US schools, but all legit US schools have gotten US accredited for obvious reasons.
05-23-2023, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That makes sense. But the specific program would still need to be approved by a recognized US accreditation organization for most employers to count it. Many foriegn programs are, but some don't bother.
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