Part 121 washout.
11-19-2019, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I have trouble believing that something NOT TRAINED would be introduced on a checkride in a structured training program.
Now I’ve never been through a -121 program which I believe to be even more highly structured that the military/P135 training programs that I have been through. Is this a common occurrence?
Now I’ve never been through a -121 program which I believe to be even more highly structured that the military/P135 training programs that I have been through. Is this a common occurrence?
It was in the syllabus but my instructor said it was a “show and tell” and said my sim partner and I should use that time to practice more important stuff like v1 cuts, SE landings, etc... little did I know....
11-19-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Peabody17
I don’t believe you’re allowed to use a backup (e.g. ILS) for the visual approach on a rating ride.
11-19-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
I suspect it might be covered in a cursory manner. I’ve seen it often combined with the partial/no flap landing. Usually one failing item isn’t an “down the road” event, but others here know more.
Obviously my checkride didn’t go perfect. Small mistakes were made, which weren’t a major issue. Im positive if I had an Instrument approach it would of been a pass. That visual was the main reason I failed, that being said it wasn’t the ONLY screw up. The examiner said every other mistake I did was a debrief item. Just that visual was the icing on the cake
11-19-2019, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Captelmo
In my case we were allowed but ils was out of service so I could only use lateral guidance which would be the localizer.
Did you have a PAPI/VASI?
Since it was a “show and tell” the instructor must have given you some guidance as to how to do it.
Which means you’ve been trained.
11-19-2019, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
So you had a localizer.
Did you have a PAPI/VASI?
Since it was a “show and tell” the instructor must have given you some guidance as to how to do it.
Which means you’ve been trained.
Did you have a PAPI/VASI?
Since it was a “show and tell” the instructor must have given you some guidance as to how to do it.
Which means you’ve been trained.
11-19-2019, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
I find it difficult to understand how a 121 (or any professional TO) allows untrained events to be checked.
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I told my instructors I wanted to practice visuals they told me I don’t have to waste sim time on it and instead I can work on something else since (to their knowledge) it’s not coming on the checkride. I honestly can’t blame them, they were trying to help me save sim time since they thought I wouldn’t get visuals on the checkride
11-19-2019, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Captelmo
Nope. As I mentioned before I’ve never done a visual approach in the simulator before my checkride
As stated earlier you can’t be tested on what’s not trained so I’m thinking we’ve got a mountain of misunderstanding here.
What did your sim partner think of it?
If it was considered a “briefing only” item then technically you’ve been trained.
But I don’t know how the training syllabus was set up.
I’m thinking there’s something you’re overlooking.
Again, what do you consider a visual approach and how was it set up?
Straight in 10 mile final starting at 3000’?
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