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ProfessionalSN 02-05-2020 09:30 AM

Regional buying your training contract
 
cape air hires FO's that are not required since they're single pilot. at 500 hours then get them to 1,500 and have them sign a 18 month commitment that starts once they attain there ATP. with a promissory note for $30,000.
TSA and GoJet will pay that training contract. to steal them.

actual question:
How do you think that looks to recruiters at their next job? do they even care? (after GoJet/TSA)
is that a good career move to get 121 Turbine PIC time faster.
does TSA or GoJet even look good on a resume.

Excargodog 02-05-2020 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by ProfessionalSN (Post 2971369)
cape air hires FO's that are not required since they're single pilot. at 500 hours then get them to 1,500 and have them sign a 18 month commitment that starts once they attain there ATP. with a promissory note for $30,000.
TSA and GoJet will pay that training contract. to steal them.

actual question:
How do you think that looks to recruiters at their next job? do they even care? (after GoJet/TSA)
is that a good career move to get 121 Turbine PIC time faster.
does TSA or GoJet even look good on a resume.

All 121 flying looks good on a resume. But 121 turbine flying pretty much always looks better than piston flying.

ProfessionalSN 02-05-2020 10:42 AM

But how do you think it looks that you left an employer on bad terms. Or do they even care?

Excargodog 02-05-2020 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by ProfessionalSN (Post 2971423)
But how do you think it looks that you left an employer on bad terms. Or do they even care?

Didn’t stop the regional from hiring you, did it? As long as you pay back the money, Cape Air set the terms of the contract, not you. Or you could simply go direct to the regional once you have your 1500 hours. They will put you through ATP-CTP training.

For that matter, $30,000 is a huge rip off. ATPs can be had much cheaper than that:

https://www.flyingmag.com/story/trai...-requirements/

https://atpflightschool.com/atp/ctp/

DontLookDown 02-05-2020 01:09 PM

I heard that if you fly as a captain at cape air for 24 months then you can flow to spirit.

why not just do that?

Excargodog 02-05-2020 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by DontLookDown (Post 2971510)
I heard that if you fly as a captain at cape air for 24 months then you can flow to spirit.

why not just do that?


because you are flying as a captain in a Cessna 402 for $20 an hour instead of as an FO in a jet for $50 an hour.

because a Cessna 402 has a max cruise of 230 knots versus an A320 max cruise of 486 knots.

because your two years flying as a captain in a Cessna 402 will leave you far less well equipped to handle the training or flying at Spirit than the same two years flying a jet, even if you never upgrade at the regional.

the cruise speed for a Cessna 402 is 274 knots SLOWER than that of a Spirit A320.

then there is the avionics... The Cessna 402s have...what? A Garmin 530? Most any regional that does jet flying will have FMS.

not saying it is impossible to go from flying a Cessna 402 to an A320, it clearly isn’t, but your risk of a training failure is going to be an order of magnitude higher than someone with two years experience flying a regional jet.

DontLookDown 02-05-2020 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2971606)
because you are flying as a captain in a Cessna 402 for $20 an hour instead of as an FO in a jet for $50 an hour.

because a Cessna 402 has a max cruise of 230 knots versus an A320 max cruise of 486 knots.

because your two years flying as a captain in a Cessna 402 will leave you far less well equipped to handle the training or flying at Spirit than the same two years flying a jet, even if you never upgrade at the regional.

the cruise speed for a Cessna 402 is 274 knots SLOWER than that of a Spirit A320.

then there is the avionics... The Cessna 402s have...what? A Garmin 530? Most any regional that does jet flying will have FMS.

not saying it is impossible to go from flying a Cessna 402 to an A320, it clearly isn’t, but your risk of a training failure is going to be an order of magnitude higher than someone with two years experience flying a regional jet.

All very valid points


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