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potnewpilot 03-04-2020 06:18 PM

Is the community always so toxic?
 
I wonder this in a completely genuine way as I've noticed no shortage of negativity, bickering, bashing, know-it-alls and insults. Is the rest of the community this toxic or is it people hiding out behind anonymity? It makes me wonder how pilots sit in the cockpit together for hours on end amicably.

TheRotorTrash 03-04-2020 06:20 PM

Ha! Dude... Asking this in an anonymous forum is not going to give you anything. But yes. Every flight is just like reading APC. Be a construction project manager or a firefighter.

*insert snowflake, Trump, or leftist for good measure.

TiredSoul 03-04-2020 07:02 PM

Pilots in their core tend to be very sensitive and romantic figures, in a literary sense at least.
Old man and the Sea, Fate is the Hunter and Moby Dick.
Many chase that elusive creature in the shape of a job or upgrade.
They generally have an addiction prone personality be it p*ssy, alcohol or money.
Those combined lead to an excess of need and a shortage of satisfaction.
Roll that into a fake I’m tough and I couldn’t care two clicks facade......and you have the modern dark and bitter.....overly cynical pilot.
My excuse anyway.

tomgoodman 03-04-2020 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by potnewpilot (Post 2989613)
I wonder this in a completely genuine way as I've noticed no shortage of negativity, bickering, bashing, know-it-alls and insults. Is the rest of the community this toxic or is it people hiding out behind anonymity? It makes me wonder how pilots sit in the cockpit together for hours on end amicably.

It’s not like this in the “real world” outside the internet. People use APC anonymity say things that would get them shunned or even fired at work, just because.......they can. Some of this is normal, but right now the Corona situation is adding emotional stress. If you browse a sample of posts from last year or earlier, a more typical mood should be evident. :)

PotatoChip 03-04-2020 07:49 PM

Well, after seeing two companies I’ve worked for furlough, the victim of one of them, downgraded at another, and one place that no longer even exists, oh, and making less than $40k my first five years as a 121 airline pilot, yeah, I’m pretty cynical and have issues with this career. Now that I’m finally at a major with less than a year seniority and we just got an email about a cut in capacity and furlough is on everyone’s mind, you’ll have to forgive me for not seeming optimistic and happy.

And that all said, in the cockpit, with 95% of guys, we genuinely have a pleasant day, make jokes, get through it etc.
Just finished a 12 hour day today with 7.5 block, four write ups, T-storms, and other issues, and somehow had a good time with another pilot whom I shared almost zero background in common.

Burton78 03-04-2020 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2989655)
Pilots in their core tend to be very sensitive and romantic figures, in a literary sense at least.

Old man and the Sea, Fate is the Hunter and Moby Dick.

Many chase that elusive creature in the shape of a job or upgrade.

They generally have an addiction prone personality be it p*ssy, alcohol or money.

Those combined lead to an excess of need and a shortage of satisfaction.

Roll that into a fake I’m tough and I couldn’t care two clicks facade......and you have the modern dark and bitter.....overly cynical pilot.

My excuse anyway.




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rickair7777 03-04-2020 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by potnewpilot (Post 2989613)
I wonder this in a completely genuine way as I've noticed no shortage of negativity, bickering, bashing, know-it-alls and insults. Is the rest of the community this toxic or is it people hiding out behind anonymity? It makes me wonder how pilots sit in the cockpit together for hours on end amicably.

The worst of what you observe are simply the 1% who can get away with it online. They are over-represented here.

sourdough44 03-05-2020 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2989693)
The worst of what you observe are simply the 1% who can get away with it online. They are over-represented here.


Agreed, many take themselves to seriously.

VegasChris 03-05-2020 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by TheRotorTrash (Post 2989617)
Ha! Dude... Asking this in an anonymous forum is not going to give you anything. But yes. Every flight is just like reading APC. Be a construction project manager or a firefighter.

*insert snowflake, Trump, or leftist for good measure.


I already am a firefighter.......we don't have forums like this but I can assure you the banter at the dinner table and in the FB groups is far worse than anything on APC.

kevbo 03-05-2020 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by potnewpilot (Post 2989613)
I wonder this in a completely genuine way as I've noticed no shortage of negativity, bickering, bashing, know-it-alls and insults. Is the rest of the community this toxic or is it people hiding out behind anonymity? It makes me wonder how pilots sit in the cockpit together for hours on end amicably.

The honeymoon eventually ends and the industry is a meat grinder. It seems toxic because of your age and experience level. Curmudgeons love each others company, someday you'll be one too.


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