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What’s in PRIA besides training/checkrides?

Old 03-31-2022, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli View Post
Sounds like problems with your training department…


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My training department?

Not my employer, not my department, and most certainly not limited to one operator.
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Old 03-31-2022, 09:13 PM
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My training department?

Not my employer, not my department, and most certainly not limited to one operator.

Not having a training department would explain a lot of your above concerns…


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Old 04-01-2022, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli View Post
Not having a training department would explain a lot of your above concerns…


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Trolling, or simply grasping at straws? I said nothing of the kind.
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Old 04-05-2022, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post

Know before you go: know what other employers are going to say about you. Review your records. Review all of them; see what former employers have submitted, see what is in your FAA and PRD records. Get a copy of your driving history, and pull your credit. An employer may have told you one thing, but may have written another. It does happen. Mistakes occur, and some have a vindictive streak, too. Some operators have little fifedoms in their operation, complete with Napoleon-complex czarist autocrafts, and who knows what might lurk? You can know, however, and that's the best way to get ahead of it. Find out what's reported. If you're unsure about how to address the past, or what to disclose, see what's been disclosed already, see what's reported to the PRD, etc. Did that legal agreement to convert your termination to a resignation play out as intended? Find out, and then know whether to report it this way, or that. Both are legitimate. Neither are a lie: if you say you were terminated, that's true. If you say you resigned, that's also true. Better to say resigned, if able, but know how to address it. Talk to an attorney, former union personnel, etc.
How does one see what other employers have submitted about you in the PRD, I don't see that as an option in the portal.
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Old 04-05-2022, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltfirendkiktirs View Post
How does one see what other employers have submitted about you in the PRD, I don't see that as an option in the portal.
I just logged into PRD for the first time. Had to "create an account." Some statement popped up that an FAA PRIA Form will no longer be used as of December 2021 (fine).

My PRD containts nada, zero, zilch, just my certificates.

This PRIA to PRD transition seems to be a potential goat rope, with employers "required to submit to the PRD".
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Old 04-05-2022, 03:42 PM
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I just logged into PRD for the first time. Had to "create an account." Some statement popped up that an FAA PRIA Form will no longer be used as of December 2021 (fine).

My PRD containts nada, zero, zilch, just my certificates.

This PRIA to PRD transition seems to be a potential goat rope, with employers "required to submit to the PRD".
Agreed, this is all my PRD shows as well. I have no idea how to see what has been uploaded into the system.
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Old 04-05-2022, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltfirendkiktirs View Post
How does one see what other employers have submitted about you in the PRD, I don't see that as an option in the portal.
Register, if you haven't. https://prd.faa.gov/PRDExternal. Once inside the portal, you have options to view your records. If your records have not been submitted, there wont' be records there.

It is not expected that the process of submitting and registering all records, will be an overnight process.

Rather than repeat it, I'll refer you to another thread, same subject: Understanding the New Pilot Records DB

Once registered and in the system, you'll find a series of tabs across the top of your page: Pilot Info; Disapprovals; Enforcement; Accidents/Incidents; Experience, etc. Click on Experience. Cite your former employers for the last five years, at a minimum. This information is used to initiate the Release to Consent for both current and former employers.

Note the warning on that page: Enter your current and/or former employers for which you were employed as a pilot within the previous five years, at a minimum. It is considered a falsification and subject to enforcement action if current and/or former employers are omitted.

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Old 04-05-2022, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hercretired View Post
I just logged into PRD for the first time. Had to "create an account." Some statement popped up that an FAA PRIA Form will no longer be used as of December 2021 (fine).

My PRD containts nada, zero, zilch, just my certificates.

This PRIA to PRD transition seems to be a potential goat rope, with employers "required to submit to the PRD".
So the PRD is meant to replace the old PRIA process. FOIA was never "required" under PRIA, but it was recommended, as it was the only way that airlines could see disapprovals for certificates and ratings. Obviously that was something that got a lot of notice with some landmark accidents, that pilot X had this many disapprovals for certain certificates or ratings. It's also a talking point that airlines probably want to pursue, to see what the reason was or what the person learned if they failed for a certificate or rating. Now, in the PRD, it has a tab for disapprovals, in addition to accidents, incidents, enforcements, etc. I would suspect under PRD that the FOIA conducted by many/most airlines may stop being a procedure for them. If these tabs are "clean" in the PRD, then you have nothing there. With the PRD that shows disapprovals, there doesn't seem to be any advantage for an airline to do the FOIA, but the option still exists to you if you want to FOIA all of your 8710-1 applications.
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Old 04-06-2022, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
So the PRD is meant to replace the old PRIA process. FOIA was never "required" under PRIA, but it was recommended, as it was the only way that airlines could see disapprovals for certificates and ratings. Obviously that was something that got a lot of notice with some landmark accidents, that pilot X had this many disapprovals for certain certificates or ratings. It's also a talking point that airlines probably want to pursue, to see what the reason was or what the person learned if they failed for a certificate or rating. Now, in the PRD, it has a tab for disapprovals, in addition to accidents, incidents, enforcements, etc. I would suspect under PRD that the FOIA conducted by many/most airlines may stop being a procedure for them. If these tabs are "clean" in the PRD, then you have nothing there. With the PRD that shows disapprovals, there doesn't seem to be any advantage for an airline to do the FOIA, but the option still exists to you if you want to FOIA all of your 8710-1 applications.
I personally would FOIA everything anyway, for your own personal record/awareness of what your records contain.
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Old 05-13-2022, 02:03 PM
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Will the FOIA show FAA medical applications?
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