United commuting vs. Frontier in domicile
07-29-2022, 04:29 PM
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United commuting vs. Frontier in domicile
I have interviews with both, and if I get CJOs I think the choice is easy (United), but I've done a ton of reading around the forums and want to make sure I'm digesting everything correctly.
1) Besides cargo, United is at the top of everyone's list for all the obvious legacy reasons. But I would have to commute and have a longer upgrade time.
2) Frontier has a shorter upgrade time and I live in domicile.
I'm just slightly conflicted because it's been mentioned countless times around here to avoid commuting for max QOL no matter what.
Also I've spent hours sifting through the salary survey threads...and it seems like UAL pilots aren't really making more? I'm looking mostly at the 5-6+ year captain data, and don't really care what happens before then. A lot of UAL captains making $300k-400k with around 300-400 block hours vs. Frontier captains making $500k-600k at 750 block hours. Maybe there's more to it than I'm missing but I guess the difference is less actual work hours at UAL vs. more hustling at Frontier? Or are there UAL pilots out there hustling for much more than that who just haven't posted? At face value, $500k living in domicile seems pretty attractive to me, but I feel like turning down UAL would be crazy.
What am I missing?
Thanks for any input.
1) Besides cargo, United is at the top of everyone's list for all the obvious legacy reasons. But I would have to commute and have a longer upgrade time.
2) Frontier has a shorter upgrade time and I live in domicile.
I'm just slightly conflicted because it's been mentioned countless times around here to avoid commuting for max QOL no matter what.
Also I've spent hours sifting through the salary survey threads...and it seems like UAL pilots aren't really making more? I'm looking mostly at the 5-6+ year captain data, and don't really care what happens before then. A lot of UAL captains making $300k-400k with around 300-400 block hours vs. Frontier captains making $500k-600k at 750 block hours. Maybe there's more to it than I'm missing but I guess the difference is less actual work hours at UAL vs. more hustling at Frontier? Or are there UAL pilots out there hustling for much more than that who just haven't posted? At face value, $500k living in domicile seems pretty attractive to me, but I feel like turning down UAL would be crazy.
What am I missing?
Thanks for any input.
07-29-2022, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by immolated
I have interviews with both, and if I get CJOs I think the choice is easy (United), but I've done a ton of reading around the forums and want to make sure I'm digesting everything correctly.
1) Besides cargo, United is at the top of everyone's list for all the obvious legacy reasons. But I would have to commute and have a longer upgrade time.
2) Frontier has a shorter upgrade time and I live in domicile.
I'm just slightly conflicted because it's been mentioned countless times around here to avoid commuting for max QOL no matter what.
Also I've spent hours sifting through the salary survey threads...and it seems like UAL pilots aren't really making more? I'm looking mostly at the 5-6+ year captain data, and don't really care what happens before then. A lot of UAL captains making $300k-400k with around 300-400 block hours vs. Frontier captains making $500k-600k at 750 block hours. Maybe there's more to it than I'm missing but I guess the difference is less actual work hours at UAL vs. more hustling at Frontier? Or are there UAL pilots out there hustling for much more than that who just haven't posted? At face value, $500k living in domicile seems pretty attractive to me, but I feel like turning down UAL would be crazy.
What am I missing?
Thanks for any input.
1) Besides cargo, United is at the top of everyone's list for all the obvious legacy reasons. But I would have to commute and have a longer upgrade time.
2) Frontier has a shorter upgrade time and I live in domicile.
I'm just slightly conflicted because it's been mentioned countless times around here to avoid commuting for max QOL no matter what.
Also I've spent hours sifting through the salary survey threads...and it seems like UAL pilots aren't really making more? I'm looking mostly at the 5-6+ year captain data, and don't really care what happens before then. A lot of UAL captains making $300k-400k with around 300-400 block hours vs. Frontier captains making $500k-600k at 750 block hours. Maybe there's more to it than I'm missing but I guess the difference is less actual work hours at UAL vs. more hustling at Frontier? Or are there UAL pilots out there hustling for much more than that who just haven't posted? At face value, $500k living in domicile seems pretty attractive to me, but I feel like turning down UAL would be crazy.
What am I missing?
Thanks for any input.
The biggest question is how old are you, what F9 base and United base?
07-29-2022, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
The biggest question is how old are you, what F9 base
I could move if I really wanted to, but most big cities have a higher cost of living that may offset chasing a bigger paycheck. I bought a nice house here on the cheap long ago.
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07-29-2022, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by immolated
33. LAS.
I could move if I really wanted to, but most big cities have a higher cost of living that may offset chasing a bigger paycheck. I bought a nice house here on the cheap long ago.
I could move if I really wanted to, but most big cities have a higher cost of living that may offset chasing a bigger paycheck. I bought a nice house here on the cheap long ago.
That's not far from LAX and SFO, and there's plenty of flights. I'd do UAL, and get onto widebodies so you don't have to come in that often.
You could also get a Tesla and drive to LAX in a pinch.
Or just move. At your age the COL in CA will not offset the long-term compensation at UA lol.
07-30-2022, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by immolated
I have interviews with both, and if I get CJOs I think the choice is easy (United), but I've done a ton of reading around the forums and want to make sure I'm digesting everything correctly.
1) Besides cargo, United is at the top of everyone's list for all the obvious legacy reasons. But I would have to commute and have a longer upgrade time.
2) Frontier has a shorter upgrade time and I live in domicile.
I'm just slightly conflicted because it's been mentioned countless times around here to avoid commuting for max QOL no matter what.
Also I've spent hours sifting through the salary survey threads...and it seems like UAL pilots aren't really making more? I'm looking mostly at the 5-6+ year captain data, and don't really care what happens before then. A lot of UAL captains making $300k-400k with around 300-400 block hours vs. Frontier captains making $500k-600k at 750 block hours. Maybe there's more to it than I'm missing but I guess the difference is less actual work hours at UAL vs. more hustling at Frontier? Or are there UAL pilots out there hustling for much more than that who just haven't posted? At face value, $500k living in domicile seems pretty attractive to me, but I feel like turning down UAL would be crazy.
What am I missing?
Thanks for any input.
1) Besides cargo, United is at the top of everyone's list for all the obvious legacy reasons. But I would have to commute and have a longer upgrade time.
2) Frontier has a shorter upgrade time and I live in domicile.
I'm just slightly conflicted because it's been mentioned countless times around here to avoid commuting for max QOL no matter what.
Also I've spent hours sifting through the salary survey threads...and it seems like UAL pilots aren't really making more? I'm looking mostly at the 5-6+ year captain data, and don't really care what happens before then. A lot of UAL captains making $300k-400k with around 300-400 block hours vs. Frontier captains making $500k-600k at 750 block hours. Maybe there's more to it than I'm missing but I guess the difference is less actual work hours at UAL vs. more hustling at Frontier? Or are there UAL pilots out there hustling for much more than that who just haven't posted? At face value, $500k living in domicile seems pretty attractive to me, but I feel like turning down UAL would be crazy.
What am I missing?
Thanks for any input.
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