APU1

I have logged total time / multi / jet while sitting right seat in a small business jet that only required 1 pilot yet my employer required me to be there (not in the op specs though). I did not log any SIC or PIC though.

Now I want to apply for a regional. They don’t count that time and maybe I shouldn’t have ever counted that time but it’s already in the paper logs. I also have an electronic logbook.

So do I subtract those times out for my resume and application? And then explain the difference between my paper logs and my application/ resume? (I haven’t been flying for the past few months so I can’t say the discrepancy is from current flying.)

I understand now that most wouldn’t count that time, so how do I move forward?

JTwift

if it was single pilot jet with no ops spec, that time didn’t count for anything. Remove it from your total and resume. If it’s in your logbook, it should just be listed as some sort of other time, or “for fun/experience”, but certainly not time that should be counted.

SonicFlyer

See this:

https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-...lot-airplanes/

JTwift

I’d be EXTREMELY careful with this. Please note the jet thing…jets need a type rating. If you don’t have a type rating, I’d love to see your explanation on how you’re logging PIC as sole manipulator of the controls. You shouldn’t even be flying it!

JohnBurke

Manipulating the controls, so long as it's not a Part 135 aircraft, isn't a problem, even though not rated. Logging it is a big problem. Don't do that. I would recommend making a single line entry in your logbook to correct it and bring the numbers to where they should be. In the remarks section, you can make a note along the lines of "correction for errors," or whatever you want. In each column in which you need to remove the times, you can simply write the number to be removed, and put a minus. This isn't a legal requirement, but it does explain what was done. Alternately, you can simply apply the changes at the bottom of the page with the page totals, with no explanation (though that would show up as an error to any one reviewing your logs).

So far as logging the time, whether the owner "required" you to be there or not is irrelevant. You can't log that time.

Don't log time as "total time" when you've no classification for that time. If you have total time, it needs to be PIC, SIC, FE, or instruction received from an authorized instructor. What you did will be viewed as padding your logbook, and will show that you don't understand the regulation. Your PIC, SIC, and dual/FE time should add up to total time (which is to say, dual that wasn't also PIC or SIC).

rickair7777

I would not line it out.

Simply make a single "journal entry" with today's date and subtract out ALL of the questionable time (including IMC, landings, etc) in one entry. Make a note in the comment block "subtracting time previously logged in error". That's a lot cleaner than a bunch of line out's. IMO that's the best way to fix any logbook errors.

If the pilot was a CFI you *could* have logged TT, Ldgs, IMC, etc but only if he signed it off as dual.

JohnBurke

If you're referring to my post, I did not advise lining it out. I advised making a single line entry with the corrections.