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Old 08-28-2023, 12:18 PM
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So I recently got a full time job at a WO airline to boost my resume up a little bit when I have my 1500hrs. And to say the least I really donít like the way things are done around here, and itís not the company as a whole itís their work rules and also my coworkers. I'm trying to suck it up until Iím done flight training, but my question is if for whatever reason I left on not so good of good terms would effect my in the future?
itís a WO airline and I work in the ground department so nothing we do effects the flight ops I meanly handle the group agents and ground ops
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Old 08-28-2023, 12:29 PM
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So I recently got a full time job at a WO airline to boost my resume up a little bit when I have my 1500hrs. And to say the least I really donít like the way things are done around here, and itís not the company as a whole itís their work rules and also my coworkers. I'm trying to suck it up until Iím done flight training, but my question is if for whatever reason I left on not so good of good terms would effect my in the future?
itís a WO airline and I work in the ground department so nothing we do effects the flight ops I meanly handle the group agents and ground ops
It probably wouldnít hurt your flying career resume if you quit. But many lessons can be learned working a job you donít like, and/or working with co workers you donít like. A career in aviation is largely going to be spent in close proximity to another pilot and crew (at regionals, youíll spend most multi day trips with the same crew). So a lot can be said for learning a lesson in how to get along and work professionally with people you donít particularly want to get beers with afterwards.

What do you not like about the ďway things are done around hereĒ? Because thatís another valuable lesson that you need to grasp onto asap. Aviation jobs are not all glamorous, yes flying is better than loading bags, but nearly every pilot ďdoesnít like the way something is done hereĒ. But we manage to accept it and get by, so as itís not being done in such a way to hinder safety.

Best case, you quit on good terms and no one ever asks why in an interview. Worst case, they ask and your answer spills out self-entitlement and they throw you out on the Captain review board.
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Old 08-28-2023, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
It probably wouldnít hurt your flying career resume if you quit. But many lessons can be learned working a job you donít like, and/or working with co workers you donít like. A career in aviation is largely going to be spent in close proximity to another pilot and crew (at regionals, youíll spend most multi day trips with the same crew). So a lot can be said for learning a lesson in how to get along and work professionally with people you donít particularly want to get beers with afterwards.

What do you not like about the ďway things are done around hereĒ? Because thatís another valuable lesson that you need to grasp onto asap. Aviation jobs are not all glamorous, yes flying is better than loading bags, but nearly every pilot ďdoesnít like the way something is done hereĒ. But we manage to accept it and get by, so as itís not being done in such a way to hinder safety.

Best case, you quit on good terms and no one ever asks why in an interview. Worst case, they ask and your answer spills out self-entitlement and they throw you out on the Captain review board.
to be completely honest, I was interviewed for a job and then when I started three weeks later they told ďthe person that you weíre supposed to replace is not leaving anymore and we will put you in another departmentĒ and I have been in a department that I didnít interview for and I wouldíve not applied to in first place because I didnít have any experience in it, and since then I have been unhappy going in to work. The only good part is that I get to connect with airline pilotís.
Plus those work rules are worst unitedís old contract lol!(this is a joke)
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Old 08-28-2023, 12:43 PM
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to be completely honest, I was interviewed for a job and then when I started three weeks later they told ďthe person that you weíre supposed to replace is not leaving anymore and we will put you in another departmentĒ and I have been in a department that I didnít interview for and I wouldíve not applied to in first place because I didnít have any experience in it, and since then I have been unhappy going in to work. The only good part is that I get to connect with airline pilotís.
Plus those work rules are worst unitedís old contract lol!(this is a joke)
excel at the job you've been assigned in anticipation of earning your way back to your department of choice, ideally with a promotion as a result of the "above-and-beyond" work you will have done until then. And a great TMAAT work-experience story to tell at your first pilot interview.
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Old 08-28-2023, 12:52 PM
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excel at the job you've been assigned in anticipation of earning your way back to your department of choice, ideally with a promotion as a result of the "above-and-beyond" work you will have done until then. And a great TMAAT work-experience story to tell at your first pilot interview.
I would like to get back to the original department but Iím looking for a promotion just because the overwhelming amount of work load and stress that comes with it, it will set me back on my flight training and Iím not trying to make a mistake I did before where I put a job over my future goal
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Old 08-28-2023, 01:10 PM
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So I recently got a full time job at a WO airline to boost my resume up a little bit when I have my 1500hrs. And to say the least I really donít like the way things are done around here, and itís not the company as a whole itís their work rules and also my coworkers. I'm trying to suck it up until Iím done flight training, but my question is if for whatever reason I left on not so good of good terms would effect my in the future?
itís a WO airline and I work in the ground department so nothing we do effects the flight ops I meanly handle the group agents and ground ops
Give. 2 weeks notice, donít bang out sick for them, and leave on good terms. I know people who have left the ground side at the WO and not been considered for re-employment at the WO due to how their departure was characterized while leaving the ground side.
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Old 08-28-2023, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Plabelover View Post
I would like to get back to the original department but Iím looking for a promotion just because the overwhelming amount of work load and stress that comes with it, it will set me back on my flight training and Iím not trying to make a mistake I did before where I put a job over my future goal
Look, I know your predicament sucks. Iíve been there. Trust me, I know. Iíve worked some truly $$itty jobs when I was younger trying to finish my ratings and build the hours. Iíve worked with some, interesting people I shall say. Iíve worked in warehouses with some ex convicts. Wasnít ideal, but it helped me to pay for those ratings one at a time. I also wasnít interested in working my way to management or anything that involved climbing the ladder because I didnít want that to detract from my real focus, which was studying and flying. I wanted less responsibility to work on what needed to be done. My focus was to be the sharpest pilot I could be. When I worked on my CFI, I put all my focus on being the sharpest instructor I could be. I practiced utilizing the fundamentals of instruction on teaching new people the basics of the job who were hired after me. I memorized the limitations of the airplane I was going to take a checkride in while driving a forklift. I reviewed in my head how my last training flight with my instructor went. Things I sucked at that I could do better on next time, things I was good at. I always took the time to prepare for the next flight lesson, even at work. I made use of my time until my opportunity to leave and move on came along. Thereís ways to make it suck less. Get a little creative.

If you go into work each day thinking itís gonna be crappy and itís gonna suck, well, then yea, it will suck. Learn to embrace the suck, learn to suck it up. I know these arenít things youíd like to hear, but it may be what you need to hear. Life isnít always fair and itís not always easy. Trust me, once you get to the airlines, there will be plenty of things that really really suck about the job. You will see what I mean. But you learn to deal with it. You will eventually look back on these days working a crappy low wage job and realize just how much character it builds. I know youíre probably sitting there shaking your head in disbelief at me, but in time you will see lol.

Sometimes things can get particularly bad at your job. If you must quit to find another, and perhaps, better job with less stress (but be careful with grass is greener syndrome), whatever you do, do not Ďrage quití and leave with no notice. I did that once, and it came back to hurt me. Took a while for me to recover my reputation.
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Old 08-28-2023, 01:16 PM
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Give. 2 weeks notice, donít bang out sick for them, and leave on good terms. I know people who have left the ground side at the WO and not been considered for re-employment at the WO due to how their departure was characterized while leaving the ground side.
So as the contract states for the ground ops, once your 2 weeks are in if you come late a minute(not exaggerating) for your shift you are automatically not eligible for re-hire
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Old 08-28-2023, 02:20 PM
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Look, I know your predicament sucks. Iíve been there. Trust me, I know. Iíve worked some truly $$itty jobs when I was younger trying to finish my ratings and build the hours. Iíve worked with some, interesting people I shall say. Iíve worked in warehouses with some ex convicts. Wasnít ideal, but it helped me to pay for those ratings one at a time. I also wasnít interested in working my way to management or anything that involved climbing the ladder because I didnít want that to detract from my real focus, which was studying and flying. I wanted less responsibility to work on what needed to be done. My focus was to be the sharpest pilot I could be. When I worked on my CFI, I put all my focus on being the sharpest instructor I could be. I practiced utilizing the fundamentals of instruction on teaching new people the basics of the job who were hired after me. I memorized the limitations of the airplane I was going to take a checkride in while driving a forklift. I reviewed in my head how my last training flight with my instructor went. Things I sucked at that I could do better on next time, things I was good at. I always took the time to prepare for the next flight lesson, even at work. I made use of my time until my opportunity to leave and move on came along. Thereís ways to make it suck less. Get a little creative.

If you go into work each day thinking itís gonna be crappy and itís gonna suck, well, then yea, it will suck. Learn to embrace the suck, learn to suck it up. I know these arenít things youíd like to hear, but it may be what you need to hear. Life isnít always fair and itís not always easy. Trust me, once you get to the airlines, there will be plenty of things that really really suck about the job. You will see what I mean. But you learn to deal with it. You will eventually look back on these days working a crappy low wage job and realize just how much character it builds. I know youíre probably sitting there shaking your head in disbelief at me, but in time you will see lol.

Sometimes things can get particularly bad at your job. If you must quit to find another, and perhaps, better job with less stress (but be careful with grass is greener syndrome), whatever you do, do not Ďrage quití and leave with no notice. I did that once, and it came back to hurt me. Took a while for me to recover my reputation.
I honestly took this job because of the grass is greener syndrome lol and because it was in aviation and thought thatís exactly what I need. I try so much to be positive about it and think that it is only temporary until Iím a CFI but on day when itís sunny and clear sky in the morning all the way until I get off I have to cancel my flight lesson those days makes it so hard to be positive. I try to enjoy it as much as I can and have a positive attitude but at this position Iím getting yelled at by angry employees that are mad about company policies that I have no control over it. You probably understand where Iím coming from, Iím just trying my best as much as I can but itís not easy at all.
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Old 08-28-2023, 02:44 PM
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So as the contract states for the ground ops, once your 2 weeks are in if you come late a minute(not exaggerating) for your shift you are automatically not eligible for re-hire
So you have your answerÖ leave on good terms from the ground side if you wish to return on the flight side.
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