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airventure 07-20-2008 08:28 PM

How to represent level-d sim time?
 
Hey everybody,

I'm in a position where I have about 250hrs of level-d simulator time and soon to have a Beechjet type rating. This is a result of CAE Simuflite's right-seat program. I know it certainly isn't flight time, but some suggested adding it to my "flight time" and calling it "pilot time." What's the best way to represent this on a resume? I only have 670TT/20ME without it, so I really want to promote this experience time appropriately!

Thanks!
-Brett

Lori Clark 07-20-2008 11:06 PM

Brett-
If you overstate your hours on your resume you might just put yourself in an awkward position. Really, the resume gets you the application and the application gets you the interview. Typically the application will specifically ask you to back out any sim time. Even though legally you can log it.

In all good conscience I couldn't recommend doing anything but representing it as exactly what it is - sim time.

Perhaps you can focus on what skill set the right seat program has provided instead. Not being very familiar with the program, but maybe stress the crew environment, FMS experience, etc...

Pilotpip 07-21-2008 02:51 PM

Brett,

Was the sim time with an instructor rated in the aircraft? If so, log it as SIC and dual given. You were getting training in this case. If you do log it however, make sure you get your instructor's endorsement and I would also make sure I'm familiar with the systems on the mighty Diameecher 400 in the event you have an interview with somebody who flew one in the past.

BoilerUP 07-21-2008 03:02 PM

I have over 600 hours of level C/D sim time, and it was directly responsible for me getting my first real flying job at Air Wisconsin.

Do NOT log your time as anything other than simulator time...it WILL look suspicious to a recruiter and it WILL cause you to miss out on opportunities because people will think you are trying to inflate your experience.

Put a line on your resume for "Part 142 Level D Simulator" or some such...anybody in a position to hire for an airline or corporate operator will know exactly what kind of experience you are trying to convey.

HercDriver130 07-21-2008 09:20 PM

I agree with boiler. Log simply as SIM time....NO SIC or PIC or dual anything... straight SIM. Anything else just might send the wrong signal.

328dude 07-26-2008 09:05 PM

Keep it seperate. Most majors won't accept it as total time, and ask you specifically to omit it from your application.

B757200ER 08-03-2008 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by 328dude (Post 433950)
Keep it seperate. Most majors won't accept it as total time, and ask you specifically to omit it from your application.

Agree 100%. Same with Helo time or F/E time----it isn't pilot time.

BoilerUP 08-03-2008 02:31 PM

I don't see any reason to exclude Helicopter experience from one's Total Time, unless an application explicitly instructs one to omit rotor-wing time.

rickair7777 08-03-2008 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 437947)
I don't see any reason to exclude Helicopter experience from one's Total Time, unless an application explicitly instructs one to omit rotor-wing time.

For logging purposes, helo would be flight time/total time. You may have to subtract it out on some job applications, but it does count for medicals and 8710's of course.

bertramcheeks22 08-05-2008 05:40 AM

I was encouraged to log my 40 or so hours of 737 time as simulator time and total time. Apparantly, it's legal since it's a level D sim. But that's it, no logging it as SIC or logging the landings or approaches.


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