featheredprop

I and 20 others had to take a 709 ride a few years back when the FAA investigated a DE who did IFR check rides . The FAA claimed "that all of the required tasks of the IFR checkride were not done ( a non precision circling approach ) even though I did one . I have all correspondence regarding the event . The 709 ride lasted 10 minutes and i passed without any issues . The FAA never suspended any of our licenses . The question is ... Some airlines are beginning to ask if the applicant had ever had to take a 709 ride . As we all know a 709 ride is usually not a good thing . In my case I was a victim of circumstance .
My question is....
How will me checking off yes as an answer with no space for any explanation going to affect my chance at even getting an interview . I am really bummed that through no fault of my own I am in this situation . Any input appreciated ...

rickair7777

IMO you need to report it because airlines CAN get those records. I don't think it's included in the current version of PRIA if there is no associated violation but that will change soon (Colgan). There are other ways to get the info as well, and airlines might be more inclined to do that (Colgan).

I'm pretty sure that that will not be held against you at all...once you get to explain it. You should check yes, and then explain what happened in the remarks section...there should be at least a remarks section at the end of the app. If not, include it in your cover letter. If it's an online app with no resume/cover letter, you might need to write a letter to the recruiters. This might be a good thing...it would bring you to their attention.

captfurlough

I agree...you need to report it. Failing to do so could result in an unwarranted dismissal. The problem with many computer applications is that you never know if the system is programed to delete or ignor applications where a "yes" box has been checked. As a precaution I would suggest sending a written copy of the application to HR or the chief pilot with an explanation. You have nothing to hide....good luck.

featheredprop

some really great advice . I appreciate it very much . Really sucks that this happened to me . Thanks again !!

MoonFallsDown

I was 709 'ed back in 2009 (2 years ago) I was told by the FAA that after three years no one will able to pull that info from the record other than FAA....the inspector who did my ride said even though it will not show up on my record..its better to let the employer know if asked and explain it why.....in my case i have a copy of my NASA report so down the road even if i forget the details i can go back and look at it.

Lori Clark

I concur with the others here - you need to report it. They will ask you about it, and you want them to. The airline will request a copy of your airman record from the FAA and will see it (until it's 'hidden' in their system.) If you can, obtain documentation to support your story - it will lend credence to what you are explaining.

featheredprop

Thanks for the advice I have documentation which clearly shows why the 709 ride was done and clears me of any issue . However the event was 9 years ago and FAA records check shows I have no violations accidents , fail;ures or investigations pending yet an 8710 is in the packet showing the re examination.

My problem is that just answering "Have you ever had a 709 ride" may be keeping me from even interviewing .

clipperskipper

Just curious who was asking this, I haven't come across the 709 ride question yet? You're right about the auto response for a yes, particularly on Airline Apps. The heads up letter to HR is a great idea, and I would only make a positive situation out of it.

featheredprop

ASA asks if you ever had a 709 ride in the addendum section( the extra questionaire in the job targeting section)

clipperskipper

I haven't seen ASA'S app, interesting. Another child of 3407.