Just got my first fine for disorderly conduct
 

I was found on top of a roof i was practicing parkour so on the ticket is says indangerment to self /disordery conduct.. 238 dollar fine i this its BS... but whatever.. will this put a dent in my aviation career? regionals/major airlines?

I recently saw a competition between two teams for Freerunning, which I understand is very similar to Parkour. Very interesting stuff. From an earlier post, is this your SECOND ticket for this practice? If so - maybe you should research the laws govering this activity in your local area before you continue and possibly dig yourself into a huge hole. Maybe if the local law enforcement has some city ordinance against this practice there is a safe (and more legal) location for your activity.

USMCFLYR

"Planking" is parkour for lazy people. You should give it a try.

And yes, if you have criminal convictions they will come up in the interview.

Cheers,
ImTumbleweed

You can probably get away with one such conviction while young. But if you keep doing it and develop a track record, you will not get hired by the airlines.

Do you like parkour more than hauling rubber dog****** to Cleveland, because those are your two choices.

GF

Grammar and spelling on your resume will probably keep you from getting hired.

Will someone please explain what on earth is parkour ? Does it involve a gerbil ?

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Have you seen those movies where it looks like some guy is actually flying over an urban obstacle course and running and jumping up walls or jumping from a 3 story building and rolling over a car hood and then scaling up the side of a 18-wheeler? I just saw some in the movie 'Takers' yesterday. THAT is this 'art'. Of course I read that another name is 'Freerunning' if it is competitive and 'Pakour' if it is not. Not really sure why there would be a difference but maybe Buddist could explain it to us.

This issue that he is having with law enforcement reminds me of the tickets given back in the day for the skaterats performing their tricks on everyone's sidewalks and in the streets before the advent of 'skateparks'

USMCFLYR

parkour is like skateboarding, except without the skateboard. or loitering, depending on who you ask.

parkour is a philosophy an art also... it involves overcoming any obstacle wether on the streets or in school or life.. it has helped me go from C average in high school to straight A in college.. its also like meditation. ANyway, parkour is the noncomptive art it dosent involves flipping and doing backflips things that are completely useless.. freerunning is flips tricks etc things that are useless in a real life situation and dangerous.. parkour does involve rolling jumping off buildings(this is where i got the fine jumping off the school LOL) the people around snitched on my i was all cool with the police and they were like G i wish i could do that and they gave me a fine anyway.. ive had multiple people appoarch me around town(im the only one that does parkour) and say to me WOW i wish i could do that that looks so hard and itneresting .. parkour is about fluid movements in freerunning you see them stop and do a flip in parkour you would just keep running and jump off and roll.. run up a wall vault a car(point less to roll over one) a few years back I got a 50 dollar fine for skateboard where it clearly said no skateboarding i got a 238 dollar fine for parkour.. ths law is messed up im not hurting anyone..

I understand it for what it is, but airlines might consider it reckless behavior if you get a bunch of tickets.

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How old are you and do you have any licenses?

I'm no spelling or grammar champion. However, the whole poor-spelling, Buddhist, free-spirit, free-runner, skateboarder persona is probably enough to keep you out of any higher level positions in this industry. Add a couple of spots on you legal record and your'e farked...

If you wan't to make it in this industry I would suggest you take a more conventional approach to overcoming your obstacles instead of practicing Parkour. Try running for an emotional outlet it works great.

...Oh and if your'e really ****ed at life, try lifting weights while listening to Carl Orff - O Fortuna at a very loud volume level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3VsesSBsw

There are many laws like that. As a matter of fact there are a few FARs like that as well. Regardless of your or my thoughts on that, they still are LAWS and RULES. You have a choice of whether or not to abide by those laws. You made a choice to not follow the rules and the police cited you for it. If you continue in this mindset and continue to be "caught" you will make a conscious choice to exclude yourself from a professional aviation career.

in my defense i didnt know what i was doig was illegal I did not see and "no tresspassing signs" or "no parkour signs" so I was oblivious to the situation. However, I am making it a duty to stay of building at the moment there is a bunch of other things to jump off of. The real question is will airlines care about this? I'm 20 years old and just got this a few days ago. I have no other fines/violations on "record" and I do not have a driving licence.

Except getting hired at a major airline with a criminal record.

While I'm happy to know there are places that are so crime free that the police are busy busting illegal lemonade stands and ticketing goofballs (no offense intended) bouncing off of walls (or on top of roofs as the case may be), the person sifting through thousands of applications from qualified applicants couldn't care less. All they are looking for is a way to drill that number down from thousands to hundreds, and criminal records are an easy way to do so.

Even if you make it past that and get to the interview, as others have said, repeat performances show a pattern of disregard for following the rules. Google "Pilot decision making - hazardous attitudes" and read about "anti-authority attitude." Even beyond that, 121 operators like cookie-cutter guys who follow the rules, not mavericks who so to speak "do their own thing in their own way." You can be the hottest stick out there, but if you can't do it their way, you won't make it out of initial training.

While I tend to agree it's a stupid law (and a $200+ fine for violating it is even more absurd), the bottom line (as has already been said) is it is a law. Obviously I don't know you beyond one isolated post on the internet, so please don't think I'm judging you. That said, I would recommend you take a look at yourself and what this career demands of people and decide if it's really for you. I'm not saying this to dog on you - again I don't know you, but if you're a free spirited person who can't stand conformity and likes to color outside the lines, this may not be the career for you. Mind you, those aren't necessarily bad attributes, but they aren't attributes which tend to serve you well in the airline world (though there are many other places they will - many of which probably pay better).

Ultimately, being a professional pilot is largely about risk analysis, risk mitigation, decision making, judgement, and some amount of physical coordination. You may be facing your first challenge in these areas relating to being a professional aviator. Good luck to you whatever path you choose.

Buddhist -

You don't seem to grasp liability laws either.
Let's say that you are jumping off somebody's building doing your 'Pakour' and you end up breaking a leg. Do you think it fair that you should be able to sue that building's owner? And if you've never been nearly run over by a skateboarding pack then it is probably because you were one of them :p

The choice is yours and you've been given excellent advice on the chances and decisions required if you wish to continue down this particular career path.

I think it is funny too btw with how you downplay Freerunning with its' "flips tricks etc things that are useless in a real life situation and dangerous", but find meaningful purpose in pakour's "involve rolling jumping off buildings"
Yes :cool: I can see how one is dangerous and the other is like meditation ;)

USMCFLYR

Meh...I still think this guy's playing us.

What "straight A college student" jumps off buildings to relax, and can't write a complete, coherent sentence?

Sorry, somebody had to say it.

Better:

Parkour is both an art and a philosophy. It involves overcoming many obstacles: be they in school, on the street, or in life. I feel it has helped me to improve my grades due to my increased focus and discipline. In fact, I'm now a straight A college student!
Generally, parkour is non-competitive and doesn't involve tricks, flips, etc. which provide little meaningful substance to the art. In lieu of these stunts, I channel my attention and focus to primarily rolling off buildings.
Some of my neighbors filed a complaint against me, but the police didn't seem too concerned - in fact, they seemed a bit jealous! But in the end, I realized they needed to uphold the law. However, the punishment didn't seem to fit the crime - I recieved a rather large fine for this transgression, but just a few years ago, I recieved a smaller fine for something which I consider a more egregious violation.
I sincerely hope this event doesn't hinder my goal of becoming an airline pilot.

If you want to fly, start burying your head in aviation books (like Aviation Weather, Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge and the Aeronautical Information Manual)
Straight 'A' college students can finish each book within a week. It will also prevent you from getting another ticket. I will be 20 years old later this September and more than a 1000 flying hours, so its not late to start flying.

After studying those books, you might learn to write a readable paragraph. At some point, you will need to draft a resume, complete an application and, if ever get there, occasionally write a report or complete a training record. Being able to express yourself, in terms a potential boss might understand, is a necessary skill.

Also, you might think twice about your title for this thread. I would have guessed you were bragging, not asking a question.

GF

What if you land on someone? That might hurt... Try jump diving, it seems similar to what you are doing, just make sure you use a pool at normal business hours so you don't get cited for trespassing :)

The guy can't even compose a sentence yet he says he got straight A's in college. I think he is playing us and I wouldn't respond to him again, ever.

Yeah, he's just playin' us. Buddhist, why don't you Parkour yourself off a moving bus?

Got it; thanks, we used to call it: acting like a wild Indian.

To quote the OP's first post - "whatever"

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Parkour is all about physics. You have to know ballance, cordination, right angles and techniques. When i jump off a two story building i know how to land and roll with momentum. Once you learn to do it you can do it naturally, without even thinking about it. i have been doing parkour for almost three years. I have NEVER ingured myself. The key is to start out slow and progress. It's about knowing your limits and building on them. You have to be physically fit. Parkour keeps me drug and alcohol free. Its about improving yourself and overcoming you obstacles. I know I would make a good pilot. Every instruct I ever had(6) has told me im a natural pilot. Perhaps it's because my greatgrandfather and grandfather were borh pilots> My GGpa flew for an international airline. My grandfather flew in the airforce. I have wanted to be an airline pilot since I was 4 years old. I have spent many hours flying in airlines and have 22 hours toward my PPL. I am 20 years old and going to college for most likely accounting. Just because I don't take the time to grammer and spell check dosen't mean i'm uninterlligent! I recieved in A in english composition. Parkour is a very fun and natural sport that is USEFULL. If your ever being chased by an attacker or have to fight you can easily FLEE. If you know proper parkour your chased dosen't stand a chance. Its the martial art of escape. So please respect PARKOUR... (i'm doing doing gymnastics(freerunning ON THE STREETS0 even good freerunners make mistakes and they can really hurt themselves. Statistically speaking more people have been ingured in freerunning than parkour!

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Oh this is getting good!
Where is that animated person eating popcorn imbedded video that some put out?

USMCFLYR

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I see that parkour didn't help your grammar, spelling and punctuation, and couldn't control your propensity towards misdemeanor-like behavior. You don't seem to learn from prior mistakes, blame others and the system for your own faults, don't take kindly to authority, and cannot graciously accept constructive criticisms. You came to us for advice, but instead of showing some gratitude and appreciation, you become annoyingly defensive about your past transgressions. I guess parkour didn't teach you how to avoid and overcome personal obstacles.

All the faults I've listed is more than enough to derail any chance you may have with getting a job with the airlines. The closest you can come might be as a ramper.

Come back after you've grown up a bit. And don't spend any more time jumping off of two story buildings. That's just crazy; you could "ingure" yourself.

Well........there's more than half the problem!
It is French in origin! :p

USMCFLYR

Plus, show those moves to a Designated Pilot Examiner and will you be able to take an ATP checkride at 100 hours.

It's like a train wreck - I can not stop looking (reading).

Mods - please close this thread.;)

Relax. Nobody called you uninterlligent.

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Why does everyone have to be so cruel? Where is all the love no real airline pilot should talk down to others its very un professional

Does anyone but me think this thread is a total waste of bandwidth?

You're right, Fish, it's time to put this fool out of his misery. When a horse goes lame, the right thing to do is shoot it in the head.

Buddhist, I've changed my mind - I encourage you to jump off of 5 story buildings. The heck with the girlie 2 story ones.