Options with out a 4 year degree.
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Irregardless - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
#44
Huh. Well I'll de damned
1. irregardless
Used by people who ignorantly mean to say regardless. According to webster, it is a word, but since the prefix "ir" and the suffx "less" both mean "not or with" they cancel each other out, so what you end up with is regard. When you use this to try to say you don't care about something, you end up saying that you do.
1. irregardless
Used by people who ignorantly mean to say regardless. According to webster, it is a word, but since the prefix "ir" and the suffx "less" both mean "not or with" they cancel each other out, so what you end up with is regard. When you use this to try to say you don't care about something, you end up saying that you do.
#45
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Huh. Well I'll de damned
1. irregardless
Used by people who ignorantly mean to say regardless. According to webster, it is a word, but since the prefix "ir" and the suffx "less" both mean "not or with" they cancel each other out, so what you end up with is regard. When you use this to try to say you don't care about something, you end up saying that you do.
1. irregardless
Used by people who ignorantly mean to say regardless. According to webster, it is a word, but since the prefix "ir" and the suffx "less" both mean "not or with" they cancel each other out, so what you end up with is regard. When you use this to try to say you don't care about something, you end up saying that you do.
Last edited by Climbto450; 12-14-2012 at 12:43 PM. Reason: Irregardlessly.
#46
I'm pursuing Emirates..No college degree required.They provide accomadations and pay all utilities. Unless you opt out and take the housing allowance. Company provided uniforms, dry cleaning and luggage.42 days leave per year. Profit sharing up to 12 weeks base pay. Provident fund. Interest free car loan, about ($19,000 US)..Annual raises..Numerous other benefits and perks that no other US carrier could offer...And if memory serves me correctly they want commercial flying time. They don't consider any military time unless that has changed. Best of all, Job security That's my rant on that subject
#47
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But at least check your grammar before posting something like this, no offense. I agree with you completely.
It is too bad that in our society we have come to place someones worthiness on how high of a degree they obtained. Just maybe we are smart enough to self educate and think outside the box a little.
I hold someone in higher regard that was smart enough to not go into $100,000 dollars worth of debt and instead decided to start their own business. Some of the greatest inventors never went to college.
Or how about self education? So a guy sits down every morning with this lovely thing called the internet and a willingness to learn new things every morning and in the end may be much more educated than the guy that went to college. Some of the most successful and intelligent people did not go to college or high school for that matter, they self educated.
The College Dropouts Hall of Fame: Famous college dropouts, successful college dropouts, and rich college dropouts
The student loan/college racket is no different than the housing racket. It is too bad that the majors don't drop this check mark on the app and instead decide to evaluate someones "well rounded nature" in the interview instead. They may be missing out on some real smart cookies like the ones who were smart enough not to go into $100,000 dollars of debt for liqueur store wages and an (In many cases) incorrect intellectual view of what makes a society prosperous.
#48
Flight training itself is education as is initial and recurrent ground school at the airlines. I believe aviation related degrees should have the priority, but what I'm saying is that a non related degree to the pilot profession should not over take a pilot with good experience, this is where individuals should be able to market themselves as good candidates.
The piloting profession occupies an odd place in the spectrum...much of our job is technician in nature, but we do have some responsibilities which clearly fall into the professional realm.
It is the professional realm (making decisions and using judgement, potentially with little or ambiguous guidance) which tips the balance for piloting towards "degree required".
While not necessarily the case in other parts of the world, in the US at least, it is expected that people who occupy important jobs and make significant decisions affecting others come from the educated ranks. That's just the way it is here. It's also much easier to get a degree here (even a check-the-box degree) than in many other places.
If you can't afford flight training and college, I would start with college first because flight training is of limited utility without the 4-year degree. That way you can have a job and a life, and maybe learn to fly down the road.
#49
I'm pursuing Emirates..No college degree required.They provide accomadations and pay all utilities. Unless you opt out and take the housing allowance. Company provided uniforms, dry cleaning and luggage.42 days leave per year. Profit sharing up to 12 weeks base pay. Provident fund. Interest free car loan, about ($19,000 US)..Annual raises..Numerous other benefits and perks that no other US carrier could offer...And if memory serves me correctly they want commercial flying time. They don't consider any military time unless that has changed. Best of all, Job security That's my rant on that subject
But EK is an example of a culture that doesn't place the same emphasis on the college degree as we do in the US, and they are not the only ones.
#50
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You could offer me $500,000 tax free and I still wouldn't go fly in the M.E. Let alone move my blonde wife and kids there.
The self-righteous attitude of many here isn't surprising, and in fact is expected.
The truth is that you don't need a degree. It's helpful, but it's not necessary, even within the hallowed borders of the USA.
Education is not the same as holding a college degree.
I managed to make it to 747 captain without a degree. Go figure.
I'm not the only one.
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