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Old 05-08-2013, 06:41 PM
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This is my first post here and I have a question about my opportunity by the regionals here in America. Let's start of with a short explanation of my situation.

I started flying right after high school in holland when I was 17. I joined a flight school and got my EASA frozen ATP with a MCC. Since then I've been instructing and currently have 2700 SEL and only 40 MEL. I just recently moved to the united states and I'm working on my cfii and mei.

So currently I'm holding an EASA Frozen ATP, CMEL, Instrument and CFI. The FAA licenses that I have are CMEL, instrument and CFI. soon I will have my cfii and mei.

The questions that I have are, do regionals hire pilots with barely any multi time (I have the ATP requirements) and if putting my EASA licenses on my resume will be in my benefit or will it work against me for any reason?
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:29 AM
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100-300 ME is what regionals usually prefer, but will often hire with 50 ME or even less if they get in a bind...start applying and see who calls.

The JAR ATPL will show that you can pass an ATP checkride, so I would certainly include it on the resume. Just make sure that you make it clear that you don't yet have an FAA ATP.
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Given that in 11 weeks you'll need a FAA ATP to fly for a regional I'd say your EASA status is irrelevant.
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Given that in 11 weeks you'll need a FAA ATP to fly for a regional I'd say your EASA status is irrelevant.
He has FAA ATP experience requirements met. The regional can just give him an ATP with his checkride. The fact that he holds a JAA ATPL can only be taken as a positive indicator of his potential for success in training.
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Thanks for your answer, I'll start putting a nice resume together and start applying. After instructing for 4 years I'm ready for something new, all though I still really love instructing.

I was thinking the same that my EASA ATP wouldn't hurt but I didn't know if FAA or American airliners would think anything bad about the European regulations and certificates.
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Just to clarify, the OP has a frozen ATPL. In Europe, "frozen" is not an official term, and it just means that the Commercial License Holder has completed the ATPL written exams.

Anyhow, Piedmont, Great Lakes, and Cape Air have stated that their hiring minimums are 50 hours multi or less (Cape Air you would start out on a Cessna 402). You could also look at Part 135 companies.

As far as putting the EASA license on your résumé, I have found that most people in the US don't seem to care beyond mere curiosities. People don't think bad or good either way, they just don't know much about EASA at all. I wouldn't put "frozen ATPL" on your CV. Nobody here seems to know what it means, nor is it an official term. It would just add confusion and people might think think that you are trying to convey that you have an ATPL when you really just have a CPL+IR+14 ATPL exams. You could mention that you have your EASA license and ratings so that you could explain how you have 2700tt and a whole bunch of dual given when you just got your CFII and MEI. Good luck and welcome!
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Short answer: get an FAA ATP!

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
He has FAA ATP experience requirements met. The regional can just give him an ATP with his checkride. The fact that he holds a JAA ATPL can only be taken as a positive indicator of his potential for success in training.
But he doesn't hold any ATP. The very fact that he has the mins and has passed the European writtens but never passed any checkride could raise a question.

While the airline can add the ATP to the checkride, I'd think having the rating when you apply would get make it more likely you get in the door.
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But he doesn't hold any ATP. The very fact that he has the mins and has passed the European writtens but never passed any checkride could raise a question.

While the airline can add the ATP to the checkride, I'd think having the rating when you apply would get make it more likely you get in the door.

I was always under the impression that the EASA (old JAA) frozen ATPL means you did pass the checkride (and the writtens) but can't exercise the privileges until you get the aeronautical experience.

Having worked at a school that did JAA back in the day, I personally would give some extra credit to anyone who had earned a frozen ATPL. It's a bit more rigorous than a US CPL (or ATP for that matter).
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The OP's current status would tend to disprove that. He has the time (+2700 hours) and has passed all 14 writtens and yet hasn't "thawed" out. I'll grant you the tests are more involved but some of the questions seem irrelevant. (You're using a 1/500,000 chart with a ground speed of 250 knots. How far will to move on the chart in 45 minutes?)
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