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wrxpilot,
The corp gig doesn't have to be a dream, it just has to NOT be the nightmare RJs are. GF |
Originally Posted by Ottopilot
(Post 1425443)
The "best" place to work today, will not be the "best" place to work tomorrow. It's a gamble.
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Thanks for all the info guys, a lot to think about. I did apply everywhere and just waiting to see what happens.
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Anyone know much about Compass? I was thinking about waiting for them also?
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Originally Posted by Kassimo10
(Post 1425849)
Anyone know much about Compass? I was thinking about waiting for them also?
Apply there too, they should have a lot of turnover (flow) in the near future. Odds are not high that you'll have job offers in hand at two or more airlines all at the same time...you will probably not get to choose between two or more. About all you can do is rule out bad apples in advance. Decide which regionals you would be WILLING to work for and apply to all of them. Don't apply to the bad apples (Compass is not a bad apple). Take the first job offer you get. If by some chance you get two offers at once then come back and we'll help you choose. Remember, they get to choose you too. Good chance that 30-50% of the airlines you interview will not hire you. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 1425864)
Apply there too, they should have a lot of turnover (flow) in the near future.
Odds are not high that you'll have job offers in hand at two or more airlines all at the same time...you will probably not get to choose between two or more. About all you can do is rule out bad apples in advance. Decide which regionals you would be WILLING to work for and apply to all of them. Don't apply to the bad apples (Compass is not a bad apple). Take the first job offer you get. If by some chance you get two offers at once then come back and we'll help you choose. Remember, they get to choose you too. Good chance that 30-50% of the airlines you interview will not hire you. |
What do YOU want?
There is plenty of good info on these boards, so keep doing the research, but make sure you know what to "filter out," if you know what I mean.
In regards to upgrade time, realize that the recruiter will tell you what is happening right now, but you have to look into your crystal ball to try to determine what will happen to YOU. Yeah, it's mostly a crapshoot. Personally, I went to a regional (Great Lakes) for the quick upgrade and it worked out. Others were not so fortunate. When I made my decision, I based it heavily on the following: Bases Upgrade What people do I know there? What do they say about it? How will working for this airline be perceived resume-wise down rhe road? In the end, I'm very happy I went the route I did, and would do it again. That said, I'm not sure I'd do it again based on the way things are today! Point being: Weight the options and go with what YOU think for now. Enjoy the ride, because you're in for a wild one. |
As mentioned before go to all interviews and then decide what is the best fit for you. Chasing the quick upgrade works sometimes, while choosing a place that is an easy/non commute also works for many. After a few year you will only then know if you made the correct choice.
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Originally Posted by Former OH
(Post 1426047)
As mentioned before go to all interviews and then decide what is the best fit for you. Chasing the quick upgrade works sometimes, while choosing a place that is an easy/non commute also works for many. After a few year you will only then know if you made the correct choice.
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Originally Posted by Kassimo10
(Post 1423696)
I am currently working for a corporate company flying B1900 and citation encores. I have about 1350tt, 900 multi and 870 turbine. I have FMCS and glass experience as well.
I am getting ready to apply to the regionals and I have now idea on where to go. I am new to this and wanted to see if I can get some advice from you guys on here. The reason I am going to the regionals is because currently at my corporate job upgrade time are non existent. I applied at all the regionals but have no idea on where to go, I am looking for a place that will have the quickest upgrade time!! So if any one has some insight I would really appreciate it!! Thanks |
Originally Posted by fozjared
(Post 1428911)
.. and I interviewed with Mesa, got offered the job and I took the July 9th class date and have been ridiculed for taking this job..
Maybe you have always been sheltered from some of the dirtier side of things by family and friends and it sounds like - ATP. You said multiple times that you were basically ignorant of the aviation industry, so maybe some straight tough talk was in order for you to open your eyes. I've been considering expressjet, waiting to hear from skywest for an interview, and researching any other option I can think of.. until then I am gonna hold onto that July 9th Mesa class, and if nothing happens by then--- a bird in the hand.. |
Originally Posted by Airlinewisdom
(Post 1428931)
My first suggestion is Expressjet. This is the largest regional in the world and is owned by SkyWest Inc which has close to $800 million in the bank. I think they'll be around whereas some other regionals may not.
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The one year reserve was probably a combo of hired at end of hiring cycle and choice of base.
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Thanks for the info guys, I am almost at 1400 and going to try an interview with republic for the E175 if I can get it. Also I was offered interviews at Eagle and Trans States but not sure if I will be going to the interview or not.
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Originally Posted by fozjared
(Post 1429228)
USMCFLYR- I think I was just not very clear, I def have SJS, however, I would not have turned down SkyWest by any means, however, I just keep getting put off on an interview, "next week" is what I keep getting.. I would happily fly the bro, heck, I've loved flying the 172 and the Seminole! I just want to fly! But I was mistaken on the turboprop vs turbine time, I'm sorry I offended so many, I didn't mean I don't care about money, I just know that QOL is so much more important to me than pay, as most pay is similar between airlines.. I think its absurd what the regionals get away with paying!! But the choices are the choices, there is no "great paying regional" in the first couple of years anyway.. I'm sorry I mis-communicated my points in the last thread, I know I really sounded like an idiot, but I know the choices are sorta bleak for a fledgling dad who is commuting from San Diego.. was really just seeing which regional will see me home the most.. outside of being home the max possible amount while building turbine multi time, my priorities don't really include anything else.. Also, sorry if I came off arrogant in the last post of the thread from he** when I was speaking of the different turbine engines inner workings.. I have always been a gear head, taught auto mechanics for 2 years, so of course I was drawn to the inner workings of the different style turbine engines, they still fascinate me!
You VERY clearly stated in the now closed thread about "got a call from Mesa, anyone with info" that you did NOT want to fly a turboprop. You didn't even know it was called the "bro." Please, don't try to pass yourself off now as a logically thinking industry tuned individual. You don't know how important QOL is...in the other thread you clearly said many times we were all wrong and didnt know how hard you worked for your 1500 hours (guess you're the only one) and that you'd be fine commuting cross country to reserve at Mesa with a newborn at home..... That said please don't knock everyone from a previous thread. We're hear to help you/let you know what it's like out there. Don't say things you didn't say, you'll be an easy victim in the crew rooms... |
Originally Posted by Kassimo10
(Post 1429587)
Thanks for the info guys, I am almost at 1400 and going to try an interview with republic for the E175 if I can get it. Also I was offered interviews at Eagle and Trans States but not sure if I will be going to the interview or not.
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Fozjared -
Fair enough. Just realize that you offend many, but it was less with your ignorance of the industry than your overall attitude towards it and accepting contradictory information to what you perceived the truth to be in aviation. On top of that you hit a home run with some of the biggest hot button topics like SJS, 'I don't care about pay', and 'I already know everything about everything because a friend told me so'. A little more of the old axiom :'ears open, mouth closed' :) Good luck in your choice, whatever it might be, and in finding the right combination of home and work. |
I know the answer to my question is that it depends. But I am hoping for some constructive feedback, and to grab a random sampling of the answers with hope to find truth in the middle.
I've got my military reserve job set up. I'm still exploring the idea of working for a regional for the part 121 exposure + going through an initial training program. What is a typical monthly schedule on reserve like? If you look at days 1-30, can you book them all back to back on days 1-15, and have the rest of the month off? Or would it be on days 1-4, 6-10, 18-23...sort of thing. |
Originally Posted by fozjared
(Post 1429228)
USMCFLYR- I think I was just not very clear, I def have SJS, however, I would not have turned down SkyWest by any means, however, I just keep getting put off on an interview, "next week" is what I keep getting..
Just consider it as a lesson learned, SJS is no bueno... |
Originally Posted by fozjared
(Post 1428911)
Strange with as much hiring is going on with Mesa, they haven't much been mentioned in this post.. I hit 1500 in May, I have been offered, and accepted 2 interviews, one with American Eagle, they sent me and the other 5 guys in my interview class home that day.. and I interviewed with Mesa, got offered the job and I took the July 9th class date and have been ridiculed for taking this job.. It's just like Ottopilot said, the best today won't be that tomorrow, the regionals seem like such a gamble at any point, I have been told by everyone to drop Mesa and go to Skywest, but saw where another guy posted he has been on reserve in the bro for his entire first year! So basically I don't know where to go, and it doesn't seem like anyone can really say for sure.. just such a volatile industry that it's scary to take a step in ANY direction.. I am doing as much research as I possibly can right now while I have a little time though, seems like all I can do.. However, I have several friends at expressjet and they all seem very happy.. one friend is still on reserve, but he ends up with a schedule anyway most of the time.. So my strategy is, I've been considering expressjet, waiting to hear from skywest for an interview, and researching any other option I can think of.. until then I am gonna hold onto that July 9th Mesa class, and if nothing happens by then--- a bird in the hand..
You have a July 9 class. As I understand it, it's the only bird you got in your hands. My advice is to take it. But then, you seem scared "to take a step in ANY direction" in this volatile industry. What the heck? Why is a supposedly grown man so scared? Does your AME know about these fears? I hope to God they are not debilitating. I was going to offer that I change your username. Airlines have little peons (spelling?) that troll APC and I'm afraid (see, you got ME all afeard now) someone from Mesa might see this, figure out it's you, and heaven forbid, yank the class away from you, the only birdie you have. Anyway, just get yourself situated in the best possible position given the information you have today. If you continue to live in fear of the future, you'll never get anywhere. Might as well just stay home and pull the coffin lid closed. |
As I've said before, starting out in aviation, don't own anything you can't eat or fit in the trunk.
GF |
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 1431454)
As I've said before, starting out in aviation, don't own anything you can't eat or fit in the trunk.
GF |
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 1431454)
As I've said before, starting out in aviation, don't own anything you can't eat or fit in the trunk.
GF
Originally Posted by gr8vu
(Post 1431654)
Early years aren't so bad on the Active Duty military side--but you do lose control of what you do and where you live so there are other dues to be paid to slip the surly bonds.
I moved 9 times in the first 3 years of my service. Afterwards - I never stayed longer than 4 years in any one place and that was my last tour from which I retired - thus they couldn't move me after my 3 year tour was up! :) |
Originally Posted by 24601
(Post 1425178)
go to skywest if you can, then air whisky, then tsa, stay away from peidmont, psa and really far away from republic. anyone will hire you now a days
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Originally Posted by 24601
(Post 1425178)
go to skywest if you can, then air whisky, then tsa, stay away from peidmont, psa and really far away from republic. anyone will hire you now a days
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I'm planning on applying to Eagle. I want some 121 jet time, PIC type, 5k bonus and some flight bennies. My wife just got a promotion, so I can afford the pay cut. I want to live in the DFW area, so Eagle seems like the only logical choice, as I will probably be on reserve over a year anywhere.
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Thanks again for all the information!! Applied to Republic and talked to the recruiter and he said I could get an interview with 1400, just hit 1402. So waiting to hear something this week.
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 1431454)
As I've said before, starting out in aviation, don't own anything you can't eat or fit in the trunk.
GF |
Don't forget PSA. Stays out of most rumor mills and lays low. Small airline.
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Best advice from this thread:
Never turn down a chance to interview, the skills are only learned doing it under pressure. Well qualified, stand up individuals are turned down from jobs all the time because they don't know how to present themselves. Take any information offered, but don't let others decide your career. You could be miserable at the "best" regional or happy as can be at the "worst" one. The pettiness about what airframe you are on never seems to go away, pay, domicile, and line quality are what matters. and most importantly... don't be "that guy" good luck mate |
Originally Posted by PeopleMover90
(Post 1437879)
Don't forget PSA. Stays out of most rumor mills and lays low. Small airline.
Also FozJared is my hero. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 1437960)
Best advice from this thread:
Never turn down a chance to interview, the skills are only learned doing it under pressure. Well qualified, stand up individuals are turned down from jobs all the time because they don't know how to present themselves. Take any information offered, but don't let others decide your career. You could be miserable at the "best" regional or happy as can be at the "worst" one. The pettiness about what airframe you are on never seems to go away, pay, domicile, and line quality are what matters. and most importantly... don't be "that guy" good luck mate |
Originally Posted by PeopleMover90
(Post 1437879)
Don't forget PSA. Stays out of most rumor mills and lays low. Small airline.
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Thanks guys! Got an interview at Republic on the 11th of July!! Any tips?
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Originally Posted by Kassimo10
(Post 1439299)
Thanks guys! Got an interview at Republic on the 11th of July!! Any tips?
Don't go to the interview. Don't accept the job if its offered. If you have the mins for a regional, you literally have your pick right now. Why go there? :confused: |
Originally Posted by Kassimo10
(Post 1439299)
Thanks guys! Got an interview at Republic on the 11th of July!! Any tips?
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 1439401)
Don't go to the interview. Don't accept the job if its offered. If you have the mins for a regional, you literally have your pick right now. Why go there? :confused:
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Originally Posted by Kassimo10
(Post 1442067)
Where should I go? I also want to interview for Skywest and Compass.
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 1442491)
Skywest, or XJT. But really anywhere with a contract would be preferable.
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
(Post 1442517)
Agreed. I would never move for a regional so for me it was purely a geographical decision. If where you live does not matter, then stick with the regionals with a decent contract and a future.
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