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USMCFLYR 06-15-2013 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by fozjared (Post 1428911)
.. and I interviewed with Mesa, got offered the job and I took the July 9th class date and have been ridiculed for taking this job..

Let's be honest here foz. You were ridiculed as much for your attitude on the other thread with some of the comments you made - like obvious SJS, the infamous 'I don't care about money type of comments', the 'you guys already on the line doing the job don't know what you're talking about because my friend at ATP told me....', etc....
Maybe you have always been sheltered from some of the dirtier side of things by family and friends and it sounds like - ATP.
You said multiple times that you were basically ignorant of the aviation industry, so maybe some straight tough talk was in order for you to open your eyes.


I've been considering expressjet, waiting to hear from skywest for an interview, and researching any other option I can think of.. until then I am gonna hold onto that July 9th Mesa class, and if nothing happens by then--- a bird in the hand..
A bird in the hand indeed! Just go in with eyes wide open and always be looking for the next move until you get where you want to be for a career (and then still keep one eye open because you never know what is going to happen!).

Bozo the pilot 06-15-2013 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Airlinewisdom (Post 1428931)
My first suggestion is Expressjet. This is the largest regional in the world and is owned by SkyWest Inc which has close to $800 million in the bank. I think they'll be around whereas some other regionals may not.

Agreed- itll be Skywest/xjet/Rah and some merged mess with eagle/psa/pdt/pinnacle. This is all speculation of course- Anything is possible. Good news is that eventually the contracts would have to get bettr -although we've been waitin years at Rah. :mad:

Mildred Pierce 06-15-2013 06:39 PM

The one year reserve was probably a combo of hired at end of hiring cycle and choice of base.

Kassimo10 06-17-2013 08:02 AM

Thanks for the info guys, I am almost at 1400 and going to try an interview with republic for the E175 if I can get it. Also I was offered interviews at Eagle and Trans States but not sure if I will be going to the interview or not.

PeopleMover90 06-18-2013 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by fozjared (Post 1429228)
USMCFLYR- I think I was just not very clear, I def have SJS, however, I would not have turned down SkyWest by any means, however, I just keep getting put off on an interview, "next week" is what I keep getting.. I would happily fly the bro, heck, I've loved flying the 172 and the Seminole! I just want to fly! But I was mistaken on the turboprop vs turbine time, I'm sorry I offended so many, I didn't mean I don't care about money, I just know that QOL is so much more important to me than pay, as most pay is similar between airlines.. I think its absurd what the regionals get away with paying!! But the choices are the choices, there is no "great paying regional" in the first couple of years anyway.. I'm sorry I mis-communicated my points in the last thread, I know I really sounded like an idiot, but I know the choices are sorta bleak for a fledgling dad who is commuting from San Diego.. was really just seeing which regional will see me home the most.. outside of being home the max possible amount while building turbine multi time, my priorities don't really include anything else.. Also, sorry if I came off arrogant in the last post of the thread from he** when I was speaking of the different turbine engines inner workings.. I have always been a gear head, taught auto mechanics for 2 years, so of course I was drawn to the inner workings of the different style turbine engines, they still fascinate me!

Stop trolling. Stop lying.

You VERY clearly stated in the now closed thread about "got a call from Mesa, anyone with info" that you did NOT want to fly a turboprop. You didn't even know it was called the "bro." Please, don't try to pass yourself off now as a logically thinking industry tuned individual. You don't know how important QOL is...in the other thread you clearly said many times we were all wrong and didnt know how hard you worked for your 1500 hours (guess you're the only one) and that you'd be fine commuting cross country to reserve at Mesa with a newborn at home.....

That said please don't knock everyone from a previous thread. We're hear to help you/let you know what it's like out there. Don't say things you didn't say, you'll be an easy victim in the crew rooms...

PeopleMover90 06-18-2013 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Kassimo10 (Post 1429587)
Thanks for the info guys, I am almost at 1400 and going to try an interview with republic for the E175 if I can get it. Also I was offered interviews at Eagle and Trans States but not sure if I will be going to the interview or not.

Don't choose a job by aircraft type, look at WOL, domiciles, contracts (or lack thereof), pay, upgrade time, and other factors. Those E175 drivers are paid the lowest in the business and have horrible work rules. It's a shiny cool plane with engines under the wings, but it's all the same to a major.

USMCFLYR 06-18-2013 09:04 AM

Fozjared -

Fair enough.
Just realize that you offend many, but it was less with your ignorance of the industry than your overall attitude towards it and accepting contradictory information to what you perceived the truth to be in aviation.
On top of that you hit a home run with some of the biggest hot button topics like SJS, 'I don't care about pay', and 'I already know everything about everything because a friend told me so'.
A little more of the old axiom :'ears open, mouth closed' :)

Good luck in your choice, whatever it might be, and in finding the right combination of home and work.

mpilot153 06-19-2013 12:04 PM

I know the answer to my question is that it depends. But I am hoping for some constructive feedback, and to grab a random sampling of the answers with hope to find truth in the middle.
I've got my military reserve job set up. I'm still exploring the idea of working for a regional for the part 121 exposure + going through an initial training program.
What is a typical monthly schedule on reserve like? If you look at days 1-30, can you book them all back to back on days 1-15, and have the rest of the month off? Or would it be on days 1-4, 6-10, 18-23...sort of thing.

Slats 06-19-2013 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by fozjared (Post 1429228)
USMCFLYR- I think I was just not very clear, I def have SJS, however, I would not have turned down SkyWest by any means, however, I just keep getting put off on an interview, "next week" is what I keep getting..

I hate to say it but its probably not a coincidence that your interview has been put off...
Just consider it as a lesson learned, SJS is no bueno...

vagabond 06-19-2013 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by fozjared (Post 1428911)
Strange with as much hiring is going on with Mesa, they haven't much been mentioned in this post.. I hit 1500 in May, I have been offered, and accepted 2 interviews, one with American Eagle, they sent me and the other 5 guys in my interview class home that day.. and I interviewed with Mesa, got offered the job and I took the July 9th class date and have been ridiculed for taking this job.. It's just like Ottopilot said, the best today won't be that tomorrow, the regionals seem like such a gamble at any point, I have been told by everyone to drop Mesa and go to Skywest, but saw where another guy posted he has been on reserve in the bro for his entire first year! So basically I don't know where to go, and it doesn't seem like anyone can really say for sure.. just such a volatile industry that it's scary to take a step in ANY direction.. I am doing as much research as I possibly can right now while I have a little time though, seems like all I can do.. However, I have several friends at expressjet and they all seem very happy.. one friend is still on reserve, but he ends up with a schedule anyway most of the time.. So my strategy is, I've been considering expressjet, waiting to hear from skywest for an interview, and researching any other option I can think of.. until then I am gonna hold onto that July 9th Mesa class, and if nothing happens by then--- a bird in the hand..

Good grief, Jared. I was the mod who closed your Mesa thread. I closed it because I couldn't stand to see you get beat to a pulp any longer (even though you deserve it), and now I see belatedly that you are trying to hijack this thread.

You have a July 9 class. As I understand it, it's the only bird you got in your hands. My advice is to take it. But then, you seem scared "to take a step in ANY direction" in this volatile industry. What the heck? Why is a supposedly grown man so scared? Does your AME know about these fears? I hope to God they are not debilitating.

I was going to offer that I change your username. Airlines have little peons (spelling?) that troll APC and I'm afraid (see, you got ME all afeard now) someone from Mesa might see this, figure out it's you, and heaven forbid, yank the class away from you, the only birdie you have.

Anyway, just get yourself situated in the best possible position given the information you have today. If you continue to live in fear of the future, you'll never get anywhere. Might as well just stay home and pull the coffin lid closed.


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