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MooneyBlues 10-11-2013 01:54 PM

This is my route. I'm enrolling at Aerosim in January and once I get a gig instructing somewhere I'm going to school online at night.

satpak77 10-13-2013 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1500110)
34000 Legacy/FDX/UPS pilots retire in the next 15 years.

There are currently 24000 pilots at the regionals and large fractionals.

If you're under 40 the only reason you don't move on is if you really don't want to (We all know the guys that complain about not getting hired but only apply to one airline and defiantly avoid job fairs or anything that will get them noticed).

I think the underlying theme of this discussion is securing a job at a legacy-type major IE AA, SWA, DAL, etc. FDX/UPS needs to be in that list also.

With that said, the following need to be analyzed

1. Will the 34,000 retiring pilots be replaced one for one, especially in light of mergers etc. In almost all cases, mergers cause duplicity and over-staffing. Some companies (FDX I believe) have come out and said they are presently overstaffed.

2. Will every 24,000 Regional and Frax pilot attempt to go to the majors/legacies

3. Those that do, will create openings at, well, Frax/Regionals. But it is yet to be seen if a 22 year old starting flight school today, will see a "pilot shortage" at the majors

4. No one can predict future oil prices/business growth, etc.

etc. while a "pilot shortage" may indeed be in the works, a "legacy applicant shortage" will never exist, ever

Montey 10-22-2013 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1501187)
I think the underlying theme of this discussion is securing a job at a legacy-type major IE AA, SWA, DAL, etc. FDX/UPS needs to be in that list also.

With that said, the following need to be analyzed

1. Will the 34,000 retiring pilots be replaced one for one, especially in light of mergers etc. In almost all cases, mergers cause duplicity and over-staffing. Some companies (FDX I believe) have come out and said they are presently overstaffed.

2. Will every 24,000 Regional and Frax pilot attempt to go to the majors/legacies

3. Those that do, will create openings at, well, Frax/Regionals. But it is yet to be seen if a 22 year old starting flight school today, will see a "pilot shortage" at the majors

4. No one can predict future oil prices/business growth, etc.

etc. while a "pilot shortage" may indeed be in the works, a "legacy applicant shortage" will never exist, ever

Being 17, I hope this is the case..

essayons 10-22-2013 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by bataber89 (Post 1498118)
I am going on my finale year at a community college and I am just curious is it even worth it to go for another two years?


Get off the forum and get back to studying.

firemedic 10-27-2013 06:13 PM

Does college mean anything to the airlines?
 
Slightly off topic ...... And I don't want to fire anyone up.....but honest question from a non airline pilot ....... What are some reasons a career at a regional shouldn't be a plan or a decent option? Assuming of course that you don't get furloughed or the company doesn't fold. I personally know a few senior regional captains (old neighbor is one )........has been there all his life.....loves it, and said he has no desire to move to mainline......not to mention he does well.....wife, kids, great house. Not only him ...... I've talked to a few that were very satisfied at a regional after some longevity and an extra stripe

dashdriver44 10-27-2013 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by firemedic (Post 1508725)
Slightly off topic ...... And I don't want to fire anyone up.....but honest question from a non airline pilot ....... What are some reasons a career at a regional shouldn't be a plan or a decent option? Assuming of course that you don't get furloughed or the company doesn't fold. I personally know a few senior regional captains (old neighbor is one )........has been there all his life.....loves it, and said he has no desire to move to mainline......not to mention he does well.....wife, kids, great house. Not only him ...... I've talked to a few that were very satisfied at a regional after some longevity and an extra stripe

Mesaba is a great example, making 120k a year and living in base. Now Endeavor making $87 and shrinking

firemedic 10-27-2013 06:36 PM

Does college mean anything to the airlines?
 
Ouch......are regional pay scales shrinking across the board ? Even at captain level ?


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