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thomjake1993 03-23-2014 10:48 AM

Time Building
 
I have the opportunity to sit right seat in a King Air 300. The PIC is single pilot typed, but is an MEI. How much of this "dual" time is acceptable? I will be acting as a crewmember and flying, a lot to learn so it would be legitimate dual. I don't think their plans are to type me, not anytime soon.

It's either this or GLA

Jake
CMEL/CFII

Flying Enoch 03-23-2014 03:14 PM

All of it should be able to be logged, as long as his MEI is current....

Someone correct me if I'm wrong though

thomjake1993 03-23-2014 03:25 PM

I know it is loggable, my question is would this be a good way to build time since it wont be "command" time, just dual and total. How much dual in a 300 is too much?

Senior Skipper 03-24-2014 05:36 AM

What's your goal? If it's an airline (especially a regional), they don't care. Just get your multi time, and you're good to go. Better than GLA IMHO.

Zflight 03-29-2014 02:40 PM

You're in a good position now. As long as you can explain your time no one should ask questions

USMCFLYR 03-29-2014 02:51 PM

There is a legitimate amount of time that an employer would be able to justify for dual received in my opinion and that of other similar posts I've seen on this subject before. I mean the initial type rating is about 28 hours or so of left seat/right seat time. If you were to have 100+ hrs of dual received in a King Air 300 (and do you mean BE-300 or an actual King Air 300?), I would think it would raise an eyebrow.

rickair7777 03-29-2014 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Flying Enoch (Post 1608793)
All of it should be able to be logged, as long as his MEI is current....

Someone correct me if I'm wrong though

No. You can only log dual when legitimate instruction is being conducted. I imagine that 20 to 40 hours might be reasonable depending on previous experience and the nature of the operation. But you can't just log dual forever to get around the fact that the airplane is typed for single pilot.

If you're rated for AMEL you can log it as dual received and pic. Also you'd need the relevant endorsements.

KSCessnaDriver 03-29-2014 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1612773)
If you're rated for AMEL you can log it as dual received and pic. Also you'd need the relevant endorsements.

If he's logging PIC on sole manipulator, he wouldn't need the endorsements, as you only have to be rated in class/category to log PIC in this manner.

USMCFLYR 03-29-2014 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 1612808)
If he's logging PIC on sole manipulator, he wouldn't need the endorsements, as you only have to be rated in class/category to log PIC in this manner.

Whether the OP is talking about a BE-300 or an actual King Air 300, but either requires either a SIC qual (which this will be single pilot P91) or, if flying as PIC, would require the type rating wouldn't it?

Samalama 03-30-2014 04:09 PM

What airplane are you referring to?

To be specific (and yes it's a bit confusing):
BE-300 is a type rating for the King Air 300/350
BE30 is the FAA designation for a King Air 300
B350 is the FAA designation for a King Air 350


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