PeezDog

So my question is in regards to airlineapps.com and AA Pilot Credentials. After entering in all my time, my totals don't match up exactly with whats in my book. Off by no more then 10 hours. Some only a few hours, while others match. For example my total time in my book is about 10 hours less than what the website come up with. All the time I get comes out of my manual logbook, so obviously there are math errors somewhere in there. Of course if you get an interview, they are going to want to see matching numbers and numbers that are valid, and you are going to want to present and professional, neat, and clean logbook. Thinking about finally getting logbook pro, but I dread the thought of having to go back and do all of that.

So my question is, is there a tolerance there? Do they have to be exact? Do I have to go back through years and thousands of hours to find these minor math errors? Or do they expect there to be minor errors? What have those of you who have been interviewed and hired by the majors done? What did they ask you about your logbook and any errors. Thanks guys

OnCenterline

10 hours is no big deal.

This is the better scenario.

They aren't going to care if the numbers aren't a spot-on match. Day + night = total, and 1x + ME = total are the two big ones. Obviously if you have helicopter, glider, etc. time, that needs to factor in as well.

Several years ago, I ran into the realization that my logbooks had some math errors buried in them. So, what I did was redo the math at the bottom of the page and on the page-to-page carryover. I did NOT redo the totals of all the columns on each page. It didn't take long to find the mistakes, and I made a note in my logbook explaining the correction.

To make sure I don't do that going forward, I created an Excel spreadsheet that mimics my logbook. Now, I put the numbers in that spreadsheet and let it do the math, then transfer it to my logbook.

I'm not an e-log guy. Some guys are, and that's fine. I prefer handwritten logbooks myself, just because I do. If you want to spend the money to get an e-log, then by all means do so.

The airlines aren't going to care if there is a discrepancy of a few hours. Also, AirlineApps breaks the times down slightly different than most logbooks.

Good luck...

Toonces

This might be a little late for you, but I stopped totaling anything by hand in my paper logbooks. I have an excel spreadsheet that mirrors my logbook and breaks down my flight time in every conceivable combination an application might look for. When I transcribed everything at around 1500 hrs or so, I was off by 8ish hours. That was the turning point - I haven't totaled my paper logbook since.

Since then, I have walked in with a printout of the spreadsheet and a stack of logbooks. I've only had my logbooks (or printouts) perused once out of the past 5 interviews. They were a mix of 121, 135, 141, and 91k companies. Don't sweat it, be honest, be more diligent from here on out.

2xAGM114

Similar question:

I've got a combination of military and civilian time. I did CFIing in college, and have six little black logbooks now plus my military records. From what I've read here, this is the "Flight Instructor Problem" as someone called it. Meaning...

Airline Apps (and the airlines) have a difference of opinion with the FAA on the definition of PIC. As a CFI, I could log PIC even when the student was current in the airplane under a myriad of circumstances. Anytime a CFI is in the plane he is qualified to teach in, he can arguably log PIC.

I'm planning to explain when asked that I'm only claiming the hours the website calculates (50 less) even though the paper logbook is absolutely valid.

Is this a viable solution?

OnCenterline

If the website comes up with fewer hours than you show in your logbook, don't worry about it.