Leaving One Major for another: Need advice
 

What would you do, If you just started training with one Major (Legacy) and are awaiting a class date from another Major (Legacy). Both offer junior basses in your hometown (the first one farther away than the later Legacy from your home) however your first choice of Legacy is the later, which hasn't offered a class date but is expected to in 1.5 months.

Options:
1) Would you continue new hire training at your current Legacy until a class dates is offered at the one you want to be at.
2) Would you resign asap and just wait it out without a job until the Legacy of choice calls for a class date.

I know there are no guarantees unless you are in class with an employee #, hence I would prefer to stay at my current new legacy as I await a firm class date from the legacy of choice. Don't know how I would handle the thanks but no thanks.

If anyone has experienced such an event, please share what you did or if you can please PM me.

Any additional comments appreciated.

Thanks!

No question, option 1. Why wouldn't you?

Did you seriously just ask if you should stay employed versus unemployed until your dream legacy gives a class date? Is that a serious question? Why would you quit before getting a class date in hand?

Option 1 is what I am thinking....but that would mean that I would be through ground school and possibly 3/4 way through sim training before saying thanks, but no thanks. Just trying to find out the best way to handle the transition if it comes to it.

Why don't you offer specifics since you want an answer to a specific question? You'd get better answers if you did.

Received Job offers at both United and Delta. Got offered a class at United first, however would like to be at Delta. Delta's class offer will take 1 to 1 1/2 months. Both offer NY bases.

You'll be doing everyone a favor if you leave in the middle of class. You'll be my personal hero.

I'm beginning to doubt you'll pass the psych eval....

But seriously, stay employed.

If you have a job and class date at Delta just take it. Why go through ground school/sim just to quit? if you don't have a firm date, take the job you have.

Good god I wish I was in your predicament right now.

First World Problems.

They're a b!tch.

Option 1. Without a doubt.

You are keeping a job that you have until you have a firm commitment at a second employer that you'd actually prefer. This may be rare in the aviation world, but it is common in virtually all other industries. You have no requirement to quit simply because you are window shopping, and likewise, no requirement to stay when you'd prefer to be somewhere else. If United wants to keep all of its new hires on the property and prevent them from defecting to other carriers, then let them offer pay, benefits and career security to entice you.

Neither airline is going to do you any favors if you try to be "Mr. Nice Guy" and bow out of training before everything is finalized. If something happened in that interim period they would both leave you out in the cold.

I had a very similar situation many years ago. I was at United on the line on probation. I also wanted to be at Delta (although at the time, united was the 900 lb gorilla, best contract, fastest growth, fastest progression, etc).

I interviewed at DAL, I remember one of the interview questions was "have you ever been interviewed and not hired by an airline?" My answer was "no." Then the guy says "so you haven't interviewed at United?" And my response was "I work at United." Next question "how soon can you be in class at Delta?"

I took a leave of absence from United while I was in new hire class with dal and for most of probation. Finally, I resigned from united. I haven't ever looked back. It is a good problem to have.

From a career standpoint, you won't make a mistake from one to the other. However, for me and maybe me only, the cultural change made all the difference, but that is hard to quantify.

Definitely stay with United until you are in class at Delta. No brainer.

You have a job with United. You have a promise from Delta. That says everything.

If you live in NJ stay with UA.
If you live on L.I. switch to DL.

If you live in S. CT. it's a toss up.
If you live in NW CT stick with UA.


It's all about the Hudson... Like guys said, it's a first world problem.

The one thing I would caution is: don't let your attention sway. The quickest way to lose that promised class date at Delta is to fail at United.

You won't be doing yourself, your training partners or your instructor any favors if you have an "I'm just biding my time until my Delta class starts" attitude.

Not saying you have that, a professional pilot will put everything into training, but I have seen it at my current job. Those tend to get found out rather quickly.

Congrats!

No crap. I can't even a call to save my life.

Option 1.
Neither airline cares about you as a person. It's not a relationship. It's a business. Treat it as such.

If only every pilot realized this, we'd all be in better shape. Congratulations OP x 2. Your answer is clear.

And people say NOW is an unprecedented hiring boom. We've been here before.

GF

When DAL sends the PRIA forms to UAL, you will likely be called in to talk to someone ... Then your choice will be made for you. Just hope that DAL gives you a class date soon thereafter, as I would guess UAL will give you a ticket home that day and wish you well.

Um, no, doesn't work that way.

How do you think it works? What does DAL do when they get a PRIA request from another airline for a new hire?

I have personal knowledge to back up my statement ...

This individual has already been hired by both carriers. He/she is just waiting on a class date. All PRIA requests have been sent out. There is no reason to disclose to Delta that they are in training at United.

1 in the hand 2 in the bush. Keep the 1 in the hand.

They don't do..........ANYTHING.

When said pilot walks into the HR/CP (whatever) to tell them he's leaving, said pilot will be told "sorry to you see you go, wish you the best of luck".

What were the circumstances of your "personal knowledge"?

Never mind this;

If he's in class at carrier A, he HASN'T finished training yet. No PRIA request.

Yeah, I know. But they wouldn't ask for one anyway.

I was agreeing with you.

:D internet.

He was still in training when they received the PRIA request. Maybe the difference was because he was prior Horizin so part of AAG?

Also, Potatochip's point about already being hired doesn't quite make sense, as they don't send a PRIA request until after you are hired ... In fact, depending on the training backlog, there is a good likelihood that one has a job offer awhile before they are offered a class date, but during that interval, the PRIA requests are sent out.

Finally, don't you have to disclose to a potential new employer who your current employer is, even if you haven't finished training?

Need more details, that's vague.

AFAIK, Horizin or Horizon isn't part of AAG.

DOESN'T MATTER, I know more than one guy that's been in the EXACT scenario. And for them, it was EXACTLY as I described. It's happening, and it's NOT a big deal.

Again, vague. If so, so what? Two job offers, in class at A, waiting on class at B. B calls for the class date while in training A. Like it's so hard to tell them "great, can't wait to start. But just to update, I'm in training at A but you are who I really wanted to work for".

It's not rocket surgery.....

I mean this in the nicest way: you'd have to be a special kinda stupid to quit UAL more than 2 days prior to your Delta class (assuming it even materializes). If it were me I think I'd be in class at UAL 'til 5pm the day prior and have purchased a ticket to ATL at 6pm (with the local charter co. number in my phone as a backup). I'm the last to advocate burning a bridge, but UAL gets burned either way in this scenario IMO.

Congrats and good luck!

Sure it is if you're referring to Alaska Air Group (AAG).

Although "burning a bridge" is never a good idea, an airline won't even think twice when doing what's best for itself. In other words, do what's BEST FOR YOU.

Correct, I blew it. When I see "AAG" I think of the new 'Merican.

Hey Everyone, thanks for your honest feedback. It looks like for now I will stick with United until Delta makes it official. I don't like burning bridges and definitely don't like black marking my reputation...however never thought I'd be in this position. It is a tougher problem than originally thought. I know Delta is a solid company now...but it can always change and go the other way and United could be the go to airline in the future. I guess there is no gracious way of leaving one legacy airline for another legacy. Will have to make a tough call when Delta officially invites.

Question, have you been to Kmart and purchased an 'all knowing~all seeing' 8 ball? That would be my move..............YHGTBSM.

doneandout