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badflaps 07-26-2015 10:22 PM

OBAP was probably a good idea, too bad money got in the way.

tuktukdriver 07-27-2015 06:07 AM

as long as people will continue buying these job fair scams, they will continue selling tickets.

John Carr 07-27-2015 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1938017)
OBAP was probably a good idea, too bad money got in the way.

WAI is same/similar.

alphonso1 07-27-2015 01:50 PM

OBAP Is a LOUSY, Organization whose CREDIBILITY is QUESTIONABLE at best.

They are NOT about Helping people with Ligitimate Skills and abilities. They will ONLY Help People THEY LIKE, and Those That Have A HISTORY OF TRAINING FAILURES.

Their So Called " CONVENTIONS" are just MONEY MAKING SCAMS and They Provide NO MENTORSHIP in terms of Career Advancement.

They are an Organization that is just into SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

Those of you that Lost Money, and were REFUSED REFUNDS, should REPORT them to the Better Business Bureau.

PotatoChip 07-27-2015 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by tuktukdriver (Post 1938100)
as long as people will continue buying these job fair scams, they will continue selling tickets.

I agree... But what is the alternative? Refusing to go while the the people that do get jobs and you don't? How do we sufficiently protest it without sabotaging our own careers?

While people may question OBAP's and WAI's financial use of the money generated from these fairs, at least they are non-profit organizations that MIGHT use the money towards their mission statement. Job fairs such as FAPA and AeroCrew on the other hand are nothing more than profit machines taking advantaging of pilots and lifting the burden of interviewing from airlines.

Fegelein 07-27-2015 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by alphonso1 (Post 1938453)
OBAP Is a LOUSY, Organization whose CREDIBILITY is QUESTIONABLE at best.

They are NOT about Helping people with Ligitimate Skills and abilities. They will ONLY Help People THEY LIKE, and Those That Have A HISTORY OF TRAINING FAILURES.

Their So Called " CONVENTIONS" are just MONEY MAKING SCAMS and They Provide NO MENTORSHIP in terms of Career Advancement.

They are an Organization that is just into SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

Those of you that Lost Money, and were REFUSED REFUNDS, should REPORT them to the Better Business Bureau.

Deets please.

2xAGM114 08-04-2015 01:55 PM

To the OP, you might try this lady. I received an email from her within an hour of my call to their office. She was helpful albeit I wasn't asking for a refund.

Carol Gentry
National Office Administrator
Organization of Black Aerospace Professionals, Inc (OBAP)
[email protected]

Herb Flemmming 08-14-2015 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by tuktukdriver (Post 1938100)
as long as people will continue buying these job fair scams, they will continue selling tickets.

This man speaks truth.

wankel7 08-15-2015 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by tuktukdriver (Post 1938100)
as long as people will continue buying these job fair scams, they will continue selling tickets.

As long as qualified and competitive applicants apply and don't hear anything for months or years from the airline hiring departments they will continue selling tickets.

eman 08-16-2015 05:51 AM

Obap warnings!
 

Originally Posted by alphonso1 (Post 1938453)
OBAP Is a LOUSY, Organization whose CREDIBILITY is QUESTIONABLE at best.

They are NOT about Helping people with Ligitimate Skills and abilities. They will ONLY Help People THEY LIKE, and Those That Have A HISTORY OF TRAINING FAILURES.

Their So Called " CONVENTIONS" are just MONEY MAKING SCAMS and They Provide NO MENTORSHIP in terms of Career Advancement.

They are an Organization that is just into SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

Those of you that Lost Money, and were REFUSED REFUNDS, should REPORT them to the Better Business Bureau.


I really think you should look into OBAP, VOLUNTEER at an ACE Academy in the summer, MEET members who are active and giving all they can to the community, PARTICIPATE in something to do with OBAP and at the very least meet its members that are varied but share a common goal to advance today's youth and create the generation of professionals that will replace us at the very least before convincing yourself and others that your statement is true. If you require more info. Please feel free to PM me.

Ps. From reading the beginning of this thread it does appear to have deficiencies in some things that involve your sign-up/payment/refund and those are valid issues. Hopefully enough people complain that they fix this.

Thanks and good luck in your endeavor


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