Application: tickets that are off DMV record?
08-03-2015, 08:48 PM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: It's hot out here.
Posts: 615
Just for clarification it's not the DMV that the airlines pull your record from, it's the National Drivers Registry (NDR). The records are a complete history not just 7 to 10 years. Do yourself a favor and list everything they requested. The last thing you want to do is be hired only to be told in the middle of ground school that you are no longer welcome.
08-03-2015, 10:06 PM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 610
Not true. NDR only shows major action like suspension or revoked etc. There is no master server with all Americans ticket history. Many small towns don't and aren't required to send ticket info to the dmv. Some don't want the sate to know how many tickets they issue, esp during budget cuts. The local clerk of court may still have a record though even if the dmv doesn't. If they don't then it didn't happen
Without the proper paper work, it didn't happen, is the FAA's well established view.
Without the proper paper work, it didn't happen, is the FAA's well established view.
Last edited by Waitingformins; 08-03-2015 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Edit
08-03-2015, 11:24 PM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 264
The above reply is correct regarding the NDR and no master server for tickets. Look, if you want to know exactly what the airlines will see on you it is very simple:
1. Order your PRIA records from FAA.
2. Order a copy of your NDR file.
3. Order a copy of your DMV records.
4. Order a copy of your states Department of Justice records.
5. Order a copy of your FBI Identity History Summary (criminal history record).
6. Order a full background SS# check on yourself using any reputable online background check company.
7. If prior military, review your complete discharge paperwork.
The only variable to the above is item #1. Some legacy airlines order your full airman file from the FAA. That will contain your PRIA and your primary training records from flight school. Other than that, it is not a mystery what they have access to.
1. Order your PRIA records from FAA.
2. Order a copy of your NDR file.
3. Order a copy of your DMV records.
4. Order a copy of your states Department of Justice records.
5. Order a copy of your FBI Identity History Summary (criminal history record).
6. Order a full background SS# check on yourself using any reputable online background check company.
7. If prior military, review your complete discharge paperwork.
The only variable to the above is item #1. Some legacy airlines order your full airman file from the FAA. That will contain your PRIA and your primary training records from flight school. Other than that, it is not a mystery what they have access to.
08-04-2015, 04:02 AM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 171
Originally Posted by RPJ80
The above reply is correct regarding the NDR and no master server for tickets. Look, if you want to know exactly what the airlines will see on you it is very simple:
1. Order your PRIA records from FAA.
2. Order a copy of your NDR file.
3. Order a copy of your DMV records.
4. Order a copy of your states Department of Justice records.
5. Order a copy of your FBI Identity History Summary (criminal history record).
6. Order a full background SS# check on yourself using any reputable online background check company.
7. If prior military, review your complete discharge paperwork.
The only variable to the above is item #1. Some legacy airlines order your full airman file from the FAA. That will contain your PRIA and your primary training records from flight school. Other than that, it is not a mystery what they have access to.
1. Order your PRIA records from FAA.
2. Order a copy of your NDR file.
3. Order a copy of your DMV records.
4. Order a copy of your states Department of Justice records.
5. Order a copy of your FBI Identity History Summary (criminal history record).
6. Order a full background SS# check on yourself using any reputable online background check company.
7. If prior military, review your complete discharge paperwork.
The only variable to the above is item #1. Some legacy airlines order your full airman file from the FAA. That will contain your PRIA and your primary training records from flight school. Other than that, it is not a mystery what they have access to.
08-04-2015, 04:04 AM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 171
Originally Posted by puggle
Seriously, disclose any and all tickets rather than trying to figure out which ones show up on your record. I can't tell you the number of people we take out of class, simply because they weren't honest about there record.
08-04-2015, 04:05 AM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 171
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I paid to have a local, state, and national background / driving record check done on myself. Sort of takes the mystery out of what you need to report.
08-04-2015, 05:17 AM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,145
Originally Posted by Tailfloatski
Thanks, all! Seems that the overwhelming consensus is to list them anyway and let the recruiters laugh at it Seriously, if an improper U-turn 15 years ago is a problem, I can't see how any normal human can get a job ever! So I'll take a wild guess as to when the tickets were.
Along the same lines, college GPA? Seriously? Do they really care?
Seriously, if an improper U-turn 15 years ago is a problem, I can't see how any normal human can get a job ever! So I'll take a wild guess as to when the tickets were.Along the same lines, college GPA? Seriously? Do they really care?
08-04-2015, 09:08 AM
#19
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
Originally Posted by prex8390
If that's your opinion on the matter good luck with that application with delta.
If his app is for the regionals then he is best just listing the ticket anyway and giving an approximate date. A 15 year old speeding ticket is not going to dealbreaker at any regional that I know of given the current hiring climate. Then at least he can get his name in the hat that much quicker and hopefully get a sooner class date than if he waited around for several weeks waiting for all of these reports to come in from various government agencies. Of course that is assuming that he only has a couple of minor traffic offenses. Major traffic offenses are a different story.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
