WAI conference or App review.
01-23-2016, 07:27 AM
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WAI conference or App review.
Hello everyone,
I have been reading the post on this forum for a while, but I just now decided to join to ask this question to poll everyone on a question I am asking my self. I am trying to be a little wiser with my money and I was wondering what everyone thought would get the best bang for the buck. I am thinking of either going to the WAI conference in BNA or having an App review done. I don't know which one would be better and really don't want to shell out for both right now. I can't seem to get noticed.
T.T.= 12,200
Turbine= 10,500
PIC Turbine=7,000
CL-65 Captain/LCA regional almost 12 years, CA for 8.
Almost forgot I paid for a 737 type as well. Interviewed SWA two years ago. TBNT.
BS aviation 4.0
MS Environmental Policy and Mangement 3.9
Both degrees finished online while a Captain at regional.
Member Pilots for Kids.
Board member/volunteer local non-profit Domestic Violence/Sexual Abuse advocacy group.
clean pilot record.
Mid 30's (started flying when I was 13, commercially since 18).
I have been reading the post on this forum for a while, but I just now decided to join to ask this question to poll everyone on a question I am asking my self. I am trying to be a little wiser with my money and I was wondering what everyone thought would get the best bang for the buck. I am thinking of either going to the WAI conference in BNA or having an App review done. I don't know which one would be better and really don't want to shell out for both right now. I can't seem to get noticed.
T.T.= 12,200
Turbine= 10,500
PIC Turbine=7,000
CL-65 Captain/LCA regional almost 12 years, CA for 8.
Almost forgot I paid for a 737 type as well. Interviewed SWA two years ago. TBNT.
BS aviation 4.0
MS Environmental Policy and Mangement 3.9
Both degrees finished online while a Captain at regional.
Member Pilots for Kids.
Board member/volunteer local non-profit Domestic Violence/Sexual Abuse advocacy group.
clean pilot record.
Mid 30's (started flying when I was 13, commercially since 18).
01-23-2016, 07:45 AM
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Bummer you haven't been picked up already. Unless money is a serious issue I'd go for both. A major job will be an almost immediate ROI. A good resume is very important. Nobody will see it unless you get noticed (WAI)
Best of luck!
Best of luck!
01-23-2016, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Bummer you haven't been picked up already. Unless money is a serious issue I'd go for both. A major job will be an almost immediate ROI. A good resume is very important. Nobody will see it unless you get noticed (WAI)
Best of luck!
Best of luck!
01-23-2016, 08:16 AM
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Both
Don't pay for an app review. Track down your friendly school teacher or token "better at grammar" friend and see if they are able to help.
Your quals look outstanding to me, but there appears to be one missing thing: Networking. At WAI, it's likely you will be able to get back in touch with old friends and meet new ones at their top-notch social events and/or the career fair. Get in there, mix it up, and I bet you'll be in the "short stack" in no time.
Your quals look outstanding to me, but there appears to be one missing thing: Networking. At WAI, it's likely you will be able to get back in touch with old friends and meet new ones at their top-notch social events and/or the career fair. Get in there, mix it up, and I bet you'll be in the "short stack" in no time.
01-23-2016, 09:07 AM
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I would do both. I'm not saying that because we offer an application review service. Your qualifications are great. There might be something listed incorrectly on your application that is preventing you from getting the call. We review all apps (Pilot Credentials and Airline Apps) for one price. If anyone has a question about their app please send us a PM. Good luck.
01-23-2016, 09:10 AM
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"I don't know which one would be better and really don't want to shell out for both right now. I can't seem to get noticed."
FO spent thousands of dollars, at a double digit count of job fairs, chasing the job. As soon as he upgraded he got hired. That's CHASING the job. It worked for him. If he picks up one trip towards the end of his career it will cover every single dime he spent running around to job fairs. Every single dime...
Your resume trumps his by a wide margin except for perhaps flight department/union work. But there's a huge difference he CHASED the job. For years. He was a known commodity on a personal basis. You're just numbers in a computer.
Having someone look at your resume helps. It takes several attempts to clean up the typical resume. Mistakes, omissions, gaps, excess(unnecessary) verbiage, etc, etc.
The resume typically doesn't get you hired. But when you DO talk with the recruiting team you're ready to tell your story succinctly and in the manner you want it told. Nothing's worse than having to explain gaps, or sections that don't make sense, when you really want to spend the time focusing on your high points.
FO spent thousands of dollars, at a double digit count of job fairs, chasing the job. As soon as he upgraded he got hired. That's CHASING the job. It worked for him. If he picks up one trip towards the end of his career it will cover every single dime he spent running around to job fairs. Every single dime...
Your resume trumps his by a wide margin except for perhaps flight department/union work. But there's a huge difference he CHASED the job. For years. He was a known commodity on a personal basis. You're just numbers in a computer.
Having someone look at your resume helps. It takes several attempts to clean up the typical resume. Mistakes, omissions, gaps, excess(unnecessary) verbiage, etc, etc.
The resume typically doesn't get you hired. But when you DO talk with the recruiting team you're ready to tell your story succinctly and in the manner you want it told. Nothing's worse than having to explain gaps, or sections that don't make sense, when you really want to spend the time focusing on your high points.
01-23-2016, 09:19 AM
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Something is not adding up- Your credentials are solid. Something must be askew in your "data entry" that's not getting you scored/called for an interview. Because of that, I'd do the Application Review that AeroCrew recommended.
They (or even FAPA) may be able to find what is needed to get the interview. Believe me, it can be as simple as putting "0.4" for a GPA instead of your "4.0." All that can make a huge difference in this era of scoring programs at airlines.
They (or even FAPA) may be able to find what is needed to get the interview. Believe me, it can be as simple as putting "0.4" for a GPA instead of your "4.0." All that can make a huge difference in this era of scoring programs at airlines.
01-23-2016, 09:39 AM
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Have a professional set of eyes look at your applications, any way you can. I can't tell you how many applications we look over every week that are incorrect/incomplete and have huge items missing/omitted.
Do not get skipped over with an interview invite because your applications are incomplete and in poor form.
Centerline Interview Consulting
Do not get skipped over with an interview invite because your applications are incomplete and in poor form.
Centerline Interview Consulting
01-27-2016, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep
Have a professional set of eyes look at your applications, any way you can. I can't tell you how many applications we look over every week that are incorrect/incomplete and have huge items missing/omitted.
Do not get skipped over with an interview invite because your applications are incomplete and in poor form.
Centerline Interview Consulting
Do not get skipped over with an interview invite because your applications are incomplete and in poor form.
Centerline Interview Consulting
Pick a group that has done it for a while. They will be intimately familiar with the applications and the common mistakes made by applicants.
We are professional pilots not professional airlineapps.com form fillers.
My application was pretty clean but during the review the rep was asking me questions about my background and drew out things that I needed to include.
These jobs are life changing multi million dollar opportunities. An application review is not the place to save $100.
01-27-2016, 01:10 PM
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Get your resume looked at. Guys constantly don't tell their story in their resume. It typically takes several attempts to get it right. No big deal.
I'm not saying attending a job fair increases your odds but if you're not getting 'noticed' do you think you're improving your odds by NOT going to job fairs?
I'm not saying attending a job fair increases your odds but if you're not getting 'noticed' do you think you're improving your odds by NOT going to job fairs?
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