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F4DashTrash 04-17-2016 09:42 AM

Late in the Game
 
Hello,

I've taken the liberty of registering here though I'm not yet a pilot and am no longer air crew.

So, if you're still reading, I'm looking to become a commercial pilot. I'm researching schools now, will probably take an intro. lesson next week.

Thing is, I'm 42. I'm a college grad and a Vet. I've been a flight attendant but that's the extent of my aviation experience.

I'd like some opinions on how realistic this might sound to you. Basically, at my age, how likely would you say I could get hired as an airline pilot or even a CFI? Every website I visit has pictures of some pretty young pups posted.

I thank you in advance for your response.

Otterbox 04-17-2016 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by F4DashTrash (Post 2111323)
Hello,

I've taken the liberty of registering here though I'm not yet a pilot and am no longer air crew.

So, if you're still reading, I'm looking to become a commercial pilot. I'm researching schools now, will probably take an intro. lesson next week.

Thing is, I'm 42. I'm a college grad and a Vet. I've been a flight attendant but that's the extent of my aviation experience.

I'd like some opinions on how realistic this might sound to you. Basically, at my age, how likely would you say I could get hired as an airline pilot or even a CFI? Every website I visit has pictures of some pretty young pups posted.

I thank you in advance for your response.

Totally doable. You can still have a 15-20 year career at major airline if you start flying today, get your ratings quick and start CFIing then get in with a regional with a flow agreement (and start applying to all the other majors).

F4DashTrash 04-17-2016 09:52 AM

Thank, Otterbox for your speedy response!

MaxThrustPower 04-18-2016 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by F4DashTrash (Post 2111323)
Hello,I'd like some opinions on how realistic this might sound ... how likely would you say I could get hired as an airline pilot or even a CFI?

Welcome, F4DashTrash. :cool:

Okay, you asked for opinions so here goes.

I agree that it (could be) totally doable.

But I think you know you're pretty late to the party, with just starting your ratings at age 42. Even today, most major airline pilots make it into the majors between age 30 and 45, or they are at least on the flow-through list by age 45.

It would seem that you know what you're getting into if you've worked as a Flight Attendant, so that is a plus.

College degree and former military, even as a non-pilot, should be a plus.

The projected "pilot shortage" may certainly help your forecast.

Age 67+ for retirements also could help your career aspirations.

On the downside, you have a very long road ahead of you and many hurdles to reach even regional airline pilot, much less major airline pilot.

So my question is, are you truly prepared to spend time, money, and energy pursuing this goal while realizing that you may only make it part-way to the finish line?

What if you get to the regionals but don't get picked up for the majors?

Are you really okay with that?

If the answer is no, don't even start.

If you'd be happy as a career CFI, part 135 pilot, or regional pilot, by all means go for it! The career at the majors would just be icing on the cake, if the opportunity opens up.

Best wishes with your decision, either way!

F4DashTrash 04-19-2016 04:37 AM

Thanks, MaxThrust! Very helpful.

The truth is I'm not certain I even want to make it to the majors. I realize it's basically the ultimate goal for most pilots but I also have an idea what that life is like. I could spend months or years on reserve, I'd start at the bottom all over again, etc., etc.

I also accept that no amount of research will predict just how much time or money I'll have to invest and it won't be easy. I'm pretty flexible as to where I ultimately end up-just as long as I can feed myself! :-)

Once again, thanks for your response-that was a lot of help.

MaxThrustPower 04-20-2016 11:11 AM

You're welcome, F4DashTrash. Glad you found it helpful.

Yes, while the majors are typically the end-game for many pilots, it doesn't fit everyone's situation. As you know, seniority is everything in the airlines and there's something to be said for not being at the bottom of the list.

Maybe getting into a regional, corporate, or part 135 gig, working your way up to Captain, and staying there would best fit your balance between your career aspirations and quality-of-life.


I know it must be a hard decision based on your circumstances. You sound pretty level-headed and well-informed, though, and you're doing the right thing by soliciting feedback.

Best wishes on whichever direction your career takes you!

Slim11 04-23-2016 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by F4DashTrash (Post 2111323)
Hello,

I've taken the liberty of registering here though I'm not yet a pilot and am no longer air crew.

So, if you're still reading, I'm looking to become a commercial pilot. I'm researching schools now, will probably take an intro. lesson next week.

Thing is, I'm 42. I'm a college grad and a Vet. I've been a flight attendant but that's the extent of my aviation experience.

I'd like some opinions on how realistic this might sound to you. Basically, at my age, how likely would you say I could get hired as an airline pilot or even a CFI? Every website I visit has pictures of some pretty young pups posted.

I thank you in advance for your response.

Been there, done that. If I can do it, you can, too.

Started my airline career in 1979 as a F/A at a major/legacy. I am also retired from the NG. I started in the ANG where plans for pilot training didn't go the way I hoped. Retired from the ARNG and just filed for my retirement pay which should begin this summer.

I used GI Bill for some, but not all of my flight training. I spent 15 years at Comair (11 as a captain.) before Delta shut us down. I'm at another regional and upgraded last summer.

As a veteran, do you have the ability to use GI Bill? If you can't, consider join the NG/Reserves. As a PS individual, you may be able to get in and become eligible for GI Bill flight training benefits. You will need to pay for the private pilot training on your own. After you have done this, you can utilize GI Bill flight training benefits.

What is your current employment situation? Are you in a position to fly, and do the NG/Reserve thing for the time it takes to get the 1,500 hours you need? If you are currently employed, will you be able to juggle a work schedule and the flight training?

The sooner you get started, the better.

CFI Guy 04-24-2016 04:22 PM

At age 30, I decided to switch careers and started flight training full time. I felt like the "old guy" in school with most of my peers in in their early to mid 20s. If I had to start over today (and I'm younger than you) I personally wouldn't do it.

Do you have a good career now / make decent money? Have you done any flight training at all? At least get your private pilot and maybe instrument rating on your own time before you decide to commit to an aviation career.

You mentioned you were in the military. Do you have GI Bill money to cover training? If you are thinking about taking out a loan, I would strongly reconsider. The last thing you want to be worrying about is how to pay back Aunt Sallie Mae when you are approaching retirement.

Rich wife, house paid for? Go for it!

CFI Guy 04-24-2016 04:44 PM

At age 30, I decided to switch careers and started flight training full time. I felt like the "old guy" in school with most of my peers in in their early to mid 20s. If I had to start over today (and I'm younger than you) I personally wouldn't do it.

Do you have a good career now / make decent money? Have you done any flight training at all? At least get your private pilot and maybe instrument rating on your own time before you decide to commit to an aviation career.

You mentioned you were in the military. Do you have GI Bill money to cover training? If you are thinking about taking out a loan, I would strongly reconsider. The last thing you want to be worrying about is how to pay back Aunt Sallie Mae when you are approaching retirement.

Rich wife, house paid for? Go for it!

Quarryman 04-24-2016 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by CFI Guy (Post 2115918)
At age 30, I decided to switch careers and started flight training full time. I felt like the "old guy" in school with most of my peers in in their early to mid 20s. If I had to start over today (and I'm younger than you) I personally wouldn't do it.

Do you have a good career now / make decent money? Have you done any flight training at all? At least get your private pilot and maybe instrument rating on your own time before you decide to commit to an aviation career.

You mentioned you were in the military. Do you have GI Bill money to cover training? If you are thinking about taking out a loan, I would strongly reconsider. The last thing you want to be worrying about is how to pay back Aunt Sallie Mae when you are approaching retirement.

Rich wife, house paid for? Go for it!

Well said here. Sallie Mae is worse than the mob and she will always get a pound of flesh if you don't pay up. Do not go into debt for this job.


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