Has anyone squeaked in w/o a 4yr degree?
11-30-2016, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by socalflyboy
Not quite true...
Have two buddies who are here now..both nada on the bachelors..neither had the special blessing you speak of...
BUT....get yourself a four year, 99.00 of the rest of the pilot group have one, or two! Jmho, of course.
Have two buddies who are here now..both nada on the bachelors..neither had the special blessing you speak of...
BUT....get yourself a four year, 99.00 of the rest of the pilot group have one, or two! Jmho, of course.
11-30-2016, 06:22 AM
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I have a buddy, headmaster of a fancy private high school in fact, who just stroked the big check to send his son to an accelerated flight school in FL. The kid went straight out of high school.
He may get lucky and find a good airline job at some point. Of course, he may need an extra 5000 hours of PIC time just to get the invite to interview. And down the road that could mean the difference between a wide body Captain seat, or career F/O. Or, he may lose his medical at some point (or license for that matter) and then he's hooped without that POP.
Spoken another way, there's no way I'd counsel a young person to try this without a degree. It can be done, but its much tougher and historically takes a lot longer to amass the requisite quals. Until the supply of qualified guys dries up, it will take a burnished app to get the call.
He may get lucky and find a good airline job at some point. Of course, he may need an extra 5000 hours of PIC time just to get the invite to interview. And down the road that could mean the difference between a wide body Captain seat, or career F/O. Or, he may lose his medical at some point (or license for that matter) and then he's hooped without that POP.
Spoken another way, there's no way I'd counsel a young person to try this without a degree. It can be done, but its much tougher and historically takes a lot longer to amass the requisite quals. Until the supply of qualified guys dries up, it will take a burnished app to get the call.
11-30-2016, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Spoken another way, there's no way I'd counsel a young person to try this without a degree. It can be done, but its much tougher and historically takes a lot longer to amass the requisite quals. Until the supply of qualified guys dries up, it will take a burnished app to get the call.
Then by the time they are eligible to move to a LCC or majors they will have their degree and will not have wasted 4 years of seniority in college.
Easier said than done, I know, but I think it would be the best course of action for anyone wanting to become a professional pilot in this environment.
11-30-2016, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NMuir
I would tell a young person to finish high school, get their flight training, get to 1500, get into a regional position as quickly as possible, but once there THEN begin working on an online degree (at a reputable 4 year institution).
Then by the time they are eligible to move to a LCC or majors they will have their degree and will not have wasted 4 years of seniority in college.
Easier said than done, I know, but I think it would be the best course of action for anyone wanting to become a professional pilot in this environment.
Then by the time they are eligible to move to a LCC or majors they will have their degree and will not have wasted 4 years of seniority in college.
Easier said than done, I know, but I think it would be the best course of action for anyone wanting to become a professional pilot in this environment.
5 years wasted.
11-30-2016, 10:27 AM
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Taken from the 'Vet' Thread...
Seems that IF they are placing high value on Advanced Degrees, then having a 4 year degree would probably be a minimum. Even if it says something else on the hiring page, why would you want to be in the pool of people without a degree when almost everyone else has one. Sounds like it's better to be in the small pool that has a Masters Degree.
Since we've already lowered our hiring projection down by 300-400 next year, seems like it will actually be a little tougher to get on now.
Good Luck to all those applying though.. still a hell of a job~
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Originally Posted by Macdacpilot
Do you know if they had advanced degrees (masters+)? I was a little surprised to learn from a friend that attended the event how much value they place on that.
Since we've already lowered our hiring projection down by 300-400 next year, seems like it will actually be a little tougher to get on now.
Good Luck to all those applying though.. still a hell of a job~
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